paulstanley400 KISS frontman Paul Stanley was recently a guest on “The Joe Rogan Experience,” where he discussed his former bandmates drummer Peter Criss and guitarist Ace Frehley implying that they carried “a lot of resentment” over the fact that some of the other members of the band were more “focused” and “driven” to succeed than they were, which ultimately led them to sabotage their careers.

“It’s very difficult to move forward when two of the people are, at times, like flat tires,” Stanley explained [as transcribed by Blabbermouth]. “It becomes more of a problem when their reason for being is to foil and to throw off track what you’re trying to do. So, at some point, it really became more about trying to disrupt what we were trying to do with no regard to whether or not what they wanted to do was right or wrong; they just wanted, ‘Let’s screw Gene [Simmons] and Paul. So we’ll say no, and they’ll say yes.’ So it really became very, very, very difficult.”

Stanley claimed that he was in favor of splitting the band’s finances evenly in the early years, but that things changed once Ace and Peter started putting less effort into the group, leaving Paul and Gene to take over. This, in turn, caused a rift between the bandmembers, necessitating a change in the group’s lineup.

When asked why he thinks Ace and Peter were seemingly so intent on working against their bandmates, Stanley said, “I think self-sabotaging comes into it, because, I think, that’s been something that’s run through parts of their lives. But I also think that there was a lot of resentment. And, honestly, I don’t believe in resenting people for what they can do that you can’t. if you’re lucky enough to have people around you who can do what you can’t, make them your best friend. Everybody can’t be the best at what they do, but you can benefit from being around those people. So, look, I never wanted or expected anybody in the band to do necessarily the same amount of work that I did, but I expected them to give a hundred percent. I was all for splitting things evenly in the original lineup of the band up until those guys departed the first time, but you have to give your best.”

He continued, “I think [our] focus and drive and determination and seeing the whole picture and wanting this to be as good as it could be, as opposed to falling back on, ‘It’s rock and roll.’ Well, rock and roll is no excuse for mediocrity, and rock and roll is no excuse for not doing your job. If somebody says, ‘Oh, my playing is rock and roll.’ No, that’s just bad. You know, there’s bad and then there’s rock and roll…Look, it’s a long time ago, and it’s kind of like talking about a girlfriend or wife you had a long time ago and trying to disseminate what went wrong. At some point it really doesn’t matter.”

Stanley says that ego clashes and disagreements over songwriting credits contributed to creating an unhealthy environment and he makes no apologies for taking charge of the group.

“I don’t know the mentality that wants to sabotage what ultimately benefits you,” Stanley said. “Look, if you’re in a band that’s doing great and you’re not the primary songwriter and the primary singer, well, you should revel in what you have. You know, the idea of equality… Some have to be more equal than others. Everybody can be in car together, but somebody’s gotta drive. We’re all going in the same direction. But when people reach the point of saying, ‘Well, I want an equal amount of songs.’ Well, do we leave off ‘Strutter’ so we can put your song on, or do we leave off ‘Detroit Rock City’? It doesn’t work like that. I don’t believe that there’s any birthright or that we should expect a quota in anything. We get what we deserve, and somebody has to decide that.”

He continued: “The key to a great band or any great situation is doing what’s best for the situation, not what’s best for you. I don’t have to be right, I just wanna see the right thing happen. So if you’re more tied up in the ego gratification or in the control factor… I honestly don’t mean to control anything, but I do have a point of view, and I guess I’ve earned my place at this juncture. But everybody gets a chance to state their views, and hopefully they are always with the best intentions, and I think that’s the way the band works now. We have a drummer [Eric Singer] who doesn’t like to take a solo, and this guy could play a better solo with one hand than most drummers could play with every limb of their body. So it’s all for one and one for all.”

In other KISS news, The Pulse Of Radio reports that “Love Gun: Deluxe Edition” will be made available on October 27th. The two-disc CD features the original 1977 album, along with a bonus disc featuring assorted demos and live tracks.

Vintage Vinyl describes the release as “the first disc includes a remastered version of the original album while disc two has demos, three live performances from a 1977 Lakeland, Florida concert and an interview with Gene Simmons. A rarity for any expanded edition of an album, the deluxe edition includes a glimpse into Paul Stanley’s creative process on Love Gun (Teaching Demo) with Stanley talking through the various chords of the song.”

Love Gun: Deluxe Edition track list:

Disc 1 (Original Album):

I Stole Your Love
Christine Sixteen
Got Love For Sale
Shock Me
Tomorrow And Tonight
Love Gun
Almost Human
Plaster Caster
Then She Kissed Me

Disc 2 (Demos, Interviews & Live)

Much Too Soon (Demo)
Plaster Caster (Demo)
Reputation (Demo)
Love Gun (Teaching Demo)
Love Gun (Demo)
Gene Simmons Interview (1977)
Tomorrow And Tonight (Demo)
I Know Who You Are (Demo)
Love Gun (Live 1977)
Christine Sixteen (Live 1977)
Shock Me (Live 1977)


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  • Joe in The Cuse on

    Sorry Ivan but Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons don’t and won’t have that control and power ever again to regain that status of what they were with the original foursome. No matter how much money is offered to G&P to get “KISS” back together…..It wont happen. EVEN IFFFFF Gene and Paul wanted to reunite with Ace and Peter it wont happen because in my opinion, I feel that Ace Frehley and Peter Criss are totally done with them. And Gene and Paul know this…no matter how much wealth they have received, it cant get them back to #r 1 ever again without Ace & Peter. They know that but more importantly….us fans know that. At the end of the day, Paul and Gene can STILL use the same old stories that they have been using since the early 1980’s but history doesn’t BS itself…Lee take note little sailor….lols

    • guitarslinger on

      That is a fact, sad but true. I wish the current lineup would acknowledge that and just quit the bashing to pretend they are the same as they were in the original lineup. It just makes no sense, it looks and sounds ridiculous. Thexy filled 12,00 seaters on the last tour, alright, a third being there because of leppard, so what? I wish they could just fade out in style and end on a high note but that point was missed some time ago. The current lineup is OK for what it is and can be, but to constantly pretend it is even better than the original is just making me and many others angry and unwilling to spend any more money on it. It also makes for more than 50% of the posts here. On the other hand, I also believe that Peter would not be physically able to tour because firstly, he is the oldest, secondly his job is the most demanding one physically. Ace I think could still do it but I agree, the gap between the two parties has been widened over the last months instaed of bridged in any way. I blame this last development 90% mostly on Paul’s self-serving behaviour. Seems to me he just needs to show everybody he is the most important guy in Kiss and always has been. In fact, no one ever doubted his crucial role, but the more he insists the more one starts asking if he actually is or was the one guy or not, so on the contrary, he will not achieve his goal of cementing his legacy but destroy part of it. – It is what it is, I would enjoy seeing Ace over here in concert but I doubt that he will actually embark on a full tour in Europe or other continents outside the US. So no matter how ridiculous this will continue to be, Gene and Paul will never be able to take away the legacy and the fan support that Ace and Peter created and earned, which I am sure G and P know and also sure they “hate”,unleast unwilling to accept, but I am glad that most of the fans do not let let the two blind them with their attempts of re-writitng KISStory and diminishing former members.

    • guitarslinger on

      12,000 of course …

  • Gary on

    Would it be too far fetched to assume Ace and Peter simply tired of Stanley’s ego?

  • Gary on

    It couldn’t have been easy to bend Paul’s ear for ideas

  • Gary on

    Celluloid heroes never die. I still play with my KISS dolls

    • Gary on

      The experience of Joe Rogans radio show was
      lame to say the least. Even a drugged out CC
      Deville eventually knew better than to use the
      Sacred monikor.

  • Sean M on

    Ru Paul??? . I would get smashed every day if I had to hang around Gene and Paul.

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