kirkhammett640 Brad Angle of Guitar World spoke with Metallica guitarist Kirk Hammett about the 31st anniversary of the band’s second album, Ride the Lightning. Excerpts from the interview appear below.

Guitar World: Today, Ride the Lightning ranks as a classic album in the metal genre. Looking back through the lens of the past 31 years, how has your view of the Ride the Lightning era changed?

Kirk Hammett: It’s interesting. Just this morning I was telling my kids what I was going to do today. I’m like, “These people are taking a picture of me in an electric chair!” They’re both young, so of course they said, “Why?” I explained it’s because we have a song called Ride the Lightning and that’s another way of saying, “You’re getting electrocuted in an electric chair!” Then I had to play them the song and sing them the lyrics. They’re sitting there looking at me, like, “Wow.” [laughs]

So I’m sitting with them, listening to that Ride the Lightning guitar solo, and I was like, I have absolutely no recollection of putting all those harmonies on there! [laughs] When we were putting that song together, we had the intro riff, the verse, the chorus, and a part of the instrumental bridge. When the whole thing slows down and there’s that solo section, I remember I pretty much played that solo as it is off the bat.

When I recorded that in 1984, I was 21 years old. That’s crazy. In 1984, a guitar solo like that was something. If you put it into context of what was going on back then, it was very modern sounding. Of course, if you put it into today’s context, it sounds like classic rock. [laughs] It’s not like today’s norm, with sweeping arpeggios and 32nd notes everywhere. I also have to say that when I listened to it this morning, I realized that the actual sound of the album is still good. After all these f–king years, it still holds up sonically.

Guitar World: ..Were you writing the stuff in El Cerrito around the same time you were taking lessons from Joe Satriani?

Kirk Hammett: Yeah, absolutely.

Guitar World: Do you remember any specific techniques that he showed you that ended up on Ride the Lightning?

Kirk Hammett: All the stuff I learned from Joe impacted my playing a lot on Ride the Lightning. He taught me stuff like figuring out what scale was most appropriate for what chord progressions. We were doing all sorts of crazy things, like modes, three-octave major and minor scales, three-octave modes, major, minor and diminished arpeggios, and tons of exercises. He taught me how to pick the notes I wanted for guitar solos as opposed to just going for a scale that covered it all. He taught me how to hone in on certain sounds and when to go major or minor. He also helped me map out that whole chromatic-arpeggio thing and taught me the importance of positioning and minimizing finger movement. That was a really important lesson.

Guitar World: You guys made a pretty serious jump in songwriting and style between Kill ’Em All and Ride the Lightning. Lars has said that Cliff Burton was an important force in pushing Metallica in this new progressive direction. What was your experience like working with Cliff during this time?

Kirk Hammett: Cliff was a total anomaly. To this day, I’m still trying to figure out everything I experienced with him. He was a bass player and played like a bassist. But, f–king hell, a lot of guitar sounds came out of it. He wrote a lot of guitar-centric runs. He always carried around a small acoustic guitar that was down tuned. I remember one time I picked it up and was like, “What is this thing even tuned to, like C?” He explained that he liked it like that because he could really bend the strings. He would always come up with harmonies on that acoustic guitar. I would be sitting there playing my guitar and he’d pick up his bass and immediately start playing a harmony part. And he would also sing harmonies. I remember the Eagles would come on the radio and he would sing all the harmony parts, never the root.

Guitar World: Ride the Lightning was the first record you had writing credits on. [Hammett replaced original lead guitarist Dave Mustaine in 1983 prior to the recording of Kill ’Em All.] At that point were you feeling a lot more comfortable about bringing your ideas to the band?

Absolutely. Actually, the title Ride the Lightning was my idea. I had taken it from a passage in a Stephen King novel, The Stand. There’s this prisoner, and the line’s something like, “He was stuck on death row and ready to ride the lighting.” Anyway, when I joined the band, those guys went out of their way to make me feel comfortable. It wasn’t like when Jason [Newsted] joined the band [after the death of founding bassist Cliff Burton], and we weren’t as far established as we were when [bassist] Rob [Trujillo] joined.

We hung out all the time back then. I remember right after recording Kill ’Em All, James was like, “Check this out,” and played me the riff to Creeping Death. But it was played really slow, like half time. It just naturally sped up over the course of time.

Guitar World I heard a rumor that the instruments on For Whom the Bell Tolls were tuned slightly sharp to match the opening bell that chimes.

Kirk Hammett: Nope. The chimes are slightly flatter. [laughs] Nah, it’s not us…it’s the chimes! Again, that bass intro was something Cliff had. He would play it all the time at soundcheck. I remember the first time he played it thinking, Wow. That’s a weird f–king riff. It was unlike anything I’d ever heard.

Guitar World: Ride the Lightning was released on Megaforce in July 1984. But soon after, Metallica were signed by Elektra, which rereleased the album later that year. Did getting picked up by a major label drastically change your lifestyle?

KirK Hammett: Well, it felt good knowing that we finally got on a major, because that’s what we wanted to be on the whole time. But none of the majors were interested at first. The amazing thing is that it all happened in one night. We were playing Roseland Ballroom in New York City after we had recorded Ride the Lightning. That night, we got signed to Elektra, Q-Prime [management] and ATI, which was a booking agency back in the day. All three of those things happened that one night, and we didn’t even play that well! We went onstage and played, but we weren’t vibing like we usually did, and we were a little sloppy. So we came offstage and we were a little bummed out, saying, “F–king hell, they’re not going to sign us. Are they even still here?” [laughs] Then Elektra came backstage and said, “Great f–king show, you guys were amazing!” [laughs] And Q-Prime said, “We are definitely working with you guys. Congratulations!” And we’re all looking at each other, like, Really?

After it all sunk in, we were really excited. Being signed to Elektra meant that our record would make it to a lot of places that wouldn’t be possible with an independent label. We knew we’d be able to tour a little better, like in a real tour bus and with better promotion. And, most importantly, we knew we’d be better off financially, so we could make a better-sounding record, which of course ended up being Master of Puppets.

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  • James K. on

    The RIDE THE LIGHTNING and MASTER OF PUPPETS era of Metallica was and still is my favorite. I was in High School and heavy metal consumed my life: I woke up and listened to it until I left for school, never wore anything other than tour shirts (even on picture day, which always pissed my mom off), spent every non-studying minute at school reading Hit Parader and Circus magazines, drew band logos all over my text books and folders, spent lunch driving around with my friends listening to metal while eating fast food, immediately started listening to metal after school, went to the record store at least three times a week to buy albums or posters, listened to metal records when I got home until my mom made me eat supper and then listened to metal until I went to sleep, often with headphones on and an album turn down low so it could help me sleep. RIDE THE LIGHTNING was very frequently played on my stereo. People point to MASTER OF PUPPETS as the game changing album, but I think it was with RIDE THE LIGHTNING that Metallica really announced to the metal world that a changing of the guard was on it’s way soon. They progressed so much from where they were with KILL ‘EM ALL, in songwriting, playing and confidence. They were my favorite metal band at that time.

  • Medved on

    I’d like for Metallica to play And Justice for All in it’s entirety so that they can finally play “Frayed Ends of Sanity” from start to finish.

  • Harry Taint on

    Raising my hand. Didn’t Ride the Lightning come out in 1984?

    • Dana on

      Indeed, it was released on July 27th, 1984.

      Guitar World was slightly off on the date. Oh well, sorry folks, it is technically 31 years since the release of Ride The Lightning. One would think that Hammett should have known when it came out. 🙂

      D 🙂

    • Michael B on

      It says in the GW article it was released in 1984. I’m assuming they forgot about it last year and are hoping nobody noticed the fudged headline.

    • Dana on

      Good point, Mike,

      I think I will change our headline and the body of the story, so at least we are correct. 😉

      D 🙂

  • Mark Ellis on

    I bought “Ride” without ever having heard “Kill Em All,” because the buzz was growing. I remember slamming it into my Camaro’s cassette player after leaving the store. Since I was immersed in the whole Motley Crue, Quiet Riot, Def Leppard scene, the music sounded foreign to my ears. Little did I realize that day that I was hearing a new direction in metal, one that would lead me to countless Big Four concerts.

    • Tyger of Pan Tang on

      Dude this was almost exactly my experience in ’84 as well, except I’m too embarrassed to say what I was driving. To my Pyromaniac ears, “Fight Fire” was just static at first. I just didn’t think it was possible to play that fast. Sure enough, Hetfield flubbed the intro and screamed out his frustration when I saw them two years later.

    • Mark Ellis on

      Let me guess, a Ford Fiesta?

  • shannon mehaffey on

    I was already fully into Metallica when this was released, and I was pretty much floored by this record, but, but, it still didn’t top Defenders of the Faith.

    • DR Is Live on

      Defenders was not just an album. It was a movement. It was an experience.

    • shannon mehaffey on

      i thought it then, and my feeling has not changed one iota, Defenders is a superior record, that guitar work, the way Halford brilliantly strikes a balance resulting in a guitar dominant record, i.e., it’s really the final answer in power metal. And besides, Ride the Lightning still came in third, after Powerslave, this was the consensus of all of us musicians in High School.

    • DR Is Live on

      I would agree with all that. Powerslave took Maiden up yet another notch. But Defenders was everything you wanted in a metal record. It had absolutely everything. Really Screaming should be the album for me as it was stupendously good. But Defenders built off that momentum and delivered in a perfect way. Even the tour was beyond anything. Remember the giant Metallion onstage? I completely lost my shit when the lights went down and its eyes lit up just before Love Bites started. It’s one of those concerts I still remember like it was yesterday. Halford was beyond powerful back then.

    • shannon mehaffey on

      That has to be the coolest metal stage set in history, they played the whole record too, except for “Eat Me Alive.” Music in general just had so much vitality back then, man, we were lucky.

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