OZZY OSBOURNE OFFERS HIS OPINION AS TO WHY BILL WARD DID NOT PARTICPATE IN THE BLACK SABBATH REUNION

OzzyOsbourneShhh Ozzy Osbourne spoke with Mojo magazine about original drummer Bill Ward’s decision not to participate in the band’s reunion.

The drum tracks on Black Sabbath’s first LP with Ozzy since 1978, 13, were recorded by Rage Against The Machine’s Brad Wilk while Osbourne’s touring drummer Tommy Clufetos filled the seat during Sabbath’s three shows last year and is currently on the road with the band in Australia.

According to blabbermouth.net, Ozzy explains Ward’s absence to Mojo, “I guess it’s to do with finances or something. But there was also another side to it. When Bill came along, we all had to ask, ‘Can he do an hour-and-a-half, two-hour gig? Can he cope?’ My suggestion was that we run through a set and see how he got on because he was so out of condition and the drummer is the most demanding job in the whole band. We looked at Bill, and he couldn’t remember what the fuck we were doing. But he didn’t come clean and say, ‘I can’t cut this gig, but can we work something out, guys, where I’ll come on but with another drummer backing me up?’ Or, ‘I’ll come and play a few songs.’ That would have been cool.”

He continued, “I get where he’s coming from, though. His pride was hurt and I get it. I really do get it. The guy will always be a dear, dear friend and a brother to me, but … He can’t be surprised that he didn’t get the gig. … You know them yellow fucking stick-on memo notes? He had them all over his fucking drums. I was like, ‘What the fuck’s that for, Bill?’ He said, ‘I can’t remember what I’m doing.’ I go, ‘How are you gonna remember out of those 500,000 bits of paper stuck all over your kit, which one you’re looking at, Bill?’ (He said) ‘I’ll know.’ Ah, OK great. I’m not gonna give Bill a hatchet job, but at the same time we haven’t got the patience to deal with it.”

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Comments

  1. Well, since Ozzy is in tip-top shape and Tony was recovering from cancer treatments, it seems right to throw Bill under the bus. I mean the one thing I enjoy about an Ozzy show is how you can understand every word he says and hits those notes as if it was 1970………

    This is a lame attempt to steer the attention away from the real issue.

    • speedking says:

      Amen. Bill didn’t want to be treated like a sideman, the nerve of him. This whole “reunion” has a foul smell to it and I’m annoyed by Iommi and Butler. Dio was right…they are idiots.

    • Greg,
      I have to disagree with you about Ozzy’s voice. He sounds terrible. He just can’t hit the notes anymore. The show in Austin sounded like bad karaoke. It was bad. Looking at other shows from the tour on you tube; they are all bad. Time to retire for real. It was a great run and makes me sad but he should not be touring. I would however, not object to more studio work where the old guy can sing at his leisure.

  2. I knew it. The money thing was just a cover up. Same thing with Peter Criss and Kiss after Peter couldn’t physically play over an hour (or wouldn’t). It’s a shame but there are only a handful who can really do it (especially metal) over the age of 60. I give Ozzy credit for finally telling the truth.

    And for all the Sab fans who call Bullshit, I would just submit to ask how would you feel if they did go through with it with Bill, and the shows were 45 minutes long and the drumming sucked? That’d be a pretty lousy reunion

  3. That’s why this is not a reunion album to me.and it will not be a reunion tour.i guess they figure if kiss can do it they can..oh well

  4. Christine says:

    I am not trying to be rude here. I was once an Ozzy fan, but who is he to criticize someone else’s memory? This was about money plain and simple.

    • henry mossberg says:

      EVERYTHING is about the money. You work for free? You shelter, feed, and clothe yourself for free? The only artist that doesn’t charge for his talent and creativity starves to death.

      I suspected Bill’s physical health was the issue all along. In the photos from the 11/11/11 presser his nose is advertising for all who know – he can’t quit the bottle. Just add him to the long list of burnt out R&R drummers

    • Bill is, and always will be an integral part of Sabbath. Shiit, just listen to him smoke on H & H with Dio. He was fried at that point, and his drumming is amazing …. he could have done this ’13’ tour and album …. they do have drugs, remember?
      We fookin’ love you Bill !
      Scott (the Drummer)

  5. I love it how everyone seems to know the real reason behind all of this when in fact everybody doesn’t know shit because none of them were there or were involved.

    Just saying………

    • I hear ya David. Everyone should know that if Ward could do it, he’d be there. The other 3 wouldn’t just keep him out, and face the criticism like they are. Its like I say, if you don’t like it, don’t buy it or go to the shows. But if its good enough for other Sabbath Fans, don’t rain on the parade.

    • speedking says:

      The name of Sharon’s brother…

  6. If Michael Anthony is not in the band it’s not a reunion.

  7. Based on the live performance video of loser I’d say ozzy has lost his ability. I wouldn’t pay my hard earned money to see him sing.

  8. I was bummed when it turned out not to be a true reunion. No matter if it was the money side, or what Ozzy said in the interview. Who knows? Either way, I was not going to get this album out of principal that Bill was not in. Then I heard “God Is Dead?”. I didn’t want to like it, but damn. That is a killer tune. I have since pre ordered the album. And going by what Ozzy said, I couldn’t see Bill playing what was played on that tune alone.

  9. bigsled says:

    Nice spin Ozzy
    You can make exceptions for you not being able to sing anymore by lip syncing . You can make exceptions for your mind being fried by using a teleprompter for your lyrics . And picking a lame set list you can remember easier.
    The bottom line is it was all about Ozzy & Tony thinking they should get more $$. Geeze will go along with anything.
    This aint no Sabbath Reunion just like VH is not a reunion without Michael.
    Worst case ; Ward cant hang for 2 hrs 4-5 nights a week . So you have him , at least, record the cd with you !

  10. Screw this. I consider myself lucky I saw the original Sabbath line-up on the reunion tour in 1999–AND PANTERA opened for them (met Dimebag that night).

    This new album and tour is nothing more than bullshit. Must be hard up for money (after all, Ozzy needs to feed his rekindled drug habit somehow). God is Dead is god awful (pardon the pun).

    I’m more excited that I’m seeing Ghost BC next week in Boston, than I am about Sabbath

    • I’m blessed I saw Vol. 4 tour as my first ever concert experience. Never will be another foursome like that one. EVER. (OK, Zeppelin) But Sabbath are all alive and well. WTF were they thinking?
      Sharon had Ozzy’s balls still firmly in a vise, and will forever. She sucks large in such a big way.
      BTW, I agree: why can’t Bill have notes on hit kit when Ozzy has a fookin’ teleprompter (and now a shiit voice). Double standard. But all in all – HAPPY AS SHIT THERE IS A NEW ALBUM.
      Number 14 had better have Bill on the kit.
      Scott (the Drummer)

  11. BULLSHIT!!!! BULLSHIT!!!! BULLSHIT!!!!! ALL YOU GUYS HAD TO DO WAS A STUDIO ALBUM WITH BILL WARD,WHO CARES ABOUT A STINKING TOUR WHEN ALL YOU GUYS DO IS PLAY THE SAME SET LIST TIME AFTER TIME.

  12. henry mossberg says:

    God is Dead? is a monster track. But it took me 3 listens to be hooked. Geezer was playing out of his mind. I like the galloping drum line, and Tony with his change-ups, was classic Tony. Brad Wilk was a good pick. This album will be huge, and worth the 35 year wait.

    Ozzy sounds good, in the studio. Even my wife commented on how she noticed that they’ve always record OO INTO the music, not above or over it, like RJD. Sure, they’re too completely different singers but OO has that naturally occurring wickedly evil sound to his voice that blends so well with their lyrics and sound. And I can definitely make more sense of what he says when he sings, than when he speaks.

    Not too impressed with the concert video from overseas in that OO sounds pretty rough and tired, while the others sound sharp.

    Now if I can only figure which version of 13, from which retailer, is the one to buy from. The fact that the buyers of the Super Deluxe Wowie Kazowie Box Set don’t get ALL of the new material is bad marketing, real bad marketing.

    • Jimmy Apple (@jimmyapple5) says:

      Ozzy sounds good? Um, you do know he has a ghost singer? And has had for quite some time.

      • henry mossberg says:

        The only thing OO has done “for quite some time” is aged. Thanks for the laugh though, for a moment you almost thought you knew what you were talking about.

  13. Bill is far better than Peter Criss & Kiss made that work for a few years.

  14. its all business…sharon is money hungry but i guess thats what anybody wants in a manger

  15. The you tube clips I have seen of recent shows..Ozzy’s voice is horrible and off key..and I’d be willing to bet he has teleprompters to remember his lyrics. It’s a half baked reunion for money..it’s a cash grab..there’s no honesty in it.

  16. Who knows the truth, either way its not the full band any way you slice it. Personally im about sick of all things Ozzy and his over exposed wife whose only claim to fame is being Ozzy’s wife… The only reason I ever paid attention to Ozzy from the very beginning was the guitar players he had in his band.

  17. Personally, I am glad they’re doing a new album, but it’s not a full reunion without Bill Ward. If he really couldn’t play up to par or have the stamina, then by all means he shouldn’t be involved. Also, I wasn’t exactly thrilled to hear that Rick Rubin was producing. The tracks I’ve heard so far sound better than I expected, but after hearing Metallica’s Death Magnetic album he did some time ago, I wasn’t impressed with the production. They should have gotten Roy Z to do it, who is a far better producer and understands metal better than most. The guitar tones on Death Magnetic were shit for a metal album. But regardless, I’m glad for the diehard Sabbath fans who are getting their fix.

  18. It’s not even going to be close to what they did when they got back with RJD. Look up the videos on you tube.Dio still sounded great at 66-67 years old only a year before he passed.Look at the fan videos though,that way no one can claim they were fixed. Ozzy hasn’t had it in years,I’m glad I got to see him in his prime,now Sharon just props him up and collects the money.

  19. vinnie the wiz says:

    ozzy probably would have gone along with th post its if they were taped together in sequence and scrolled through like old time movie credits. what a hypocritical heap of shit. god bless ozzy osbourne? fuck off ozzy osbourne! sharon, go finger yourself!

  20. Chuck Rand says:

    Wow! This topic’s pretty hot. I guess I’m going to be the voice of optimism here. “God is Dead” is a good track, and it’s eerily reminiscent of “Black Sabbath,” which gives all with the ears to hear a foothold on the Sabbath sound and faith that this album will fit in the rest of the Ozzy-era catalog. That said, I believe Ozzy is being straight with the fans. Ward is a great fellow, and anyone who has kept up over the years knows Ozzy and Bill have a great, brotherly relationship. Respectfully, Bill has not aged well, and it shows. God bless him and his health going forward. Additionally, I’m in Rubin’s camp on this one. Sabbath needed a strong, Ward-like backbeat that was compatible with Geezer and could be the solid, no frills undercurrent of what Iommi and Ozzy do to capture the songs in the recording process and redeliver them as expected live. The goal is achieved, and fans are not being short changed. In passing the comparison to VH or Kiss is apples to oranges. Michael Anthony is rhythm+vocal accompaniment+a face and voice in the band, albeit more subtle than the other two alpha egos. As for Kiss, it’s a more overt deception, but everyone knows that going in the arena. The Sabbath effort seems genuine enough and the thrill of finishing your final years on your own terms, playing what you want, when you want, and with whomever you want–I can respect that.

    • The bottom line is, whether it be Sabbath, VH, or KISS – if you aren’t happy that the originals are all there, then don’t buy tix or albums. If you’re good with what they are doing, then more power to ya and enjoy. Speak with your wallet. I’m good with some reunions like the ones mentioned, and not ok with others like GnR. But if you like the current GnR line up, I say enjoy. Like it or not, these guys have all earned the right to do whatever they want with their legacies – be it enhancing them or tarnishing them. There’s too many people with superiority complexes posting on these sites like they know more than others and thus their points are of higher validation than others.

  21. joe bob says:

    LYING F****** A******!!! That witch bitch wife of Ozzy wanted him to work for basically nothing.
    F.U. you old hack singer, WE ALL KNOW YOU USE A GHOST SINGER TO BACK YOU UP LIVE, YOU LAME EXCUSE FOR A SINGER!!!!!!! RETIRE ALREADY AND GO MUMBLE OFF INTO THE SUNSET!!!!!!!!

  22. John Alonzo says:

    If the guy can’t cut he can’t cut it, besides all the Black Sabbath stuff sounds the same, reunion is a word when people start to go broke. Being in physical condition nowadays is a must for all these old farts who don’t want to retire, I saw Ozzy in Vegas and he seemed ok with the running around and singing but his voice is going. The word dignity is the best thing in this case, there will never be another Black Sabbath so they should just learn to bow out with dignity fuck all this reunion crap. Besides Sharon is going to get all the $$$$$ money anyway.

  23. Nathan says:

    Ozzy might or might not be right, but he might as well be right. I remember the health issues Bill had in 1999 when they were putting this thing together at that time. He’s been out of the loop where the others have been active. I can see it. I went ahead and got tix to the show because this might be it for these guys in any capacity. With Tony’s schedule, I think Ozzy can stay propped up long enough to get through the tour and be OK. Geezer and Clufetos will obviously be fine so I think it’s gonna work. Ozzy might have another studio album but he’s gotta bow out soon. Only so much you can do in your mid-60’s.

  24. Bobby Anderson says:

    No Bill Ward = No reunion = me not interested = cd and concert ticket money safely secured in my wallet.

  25. Ozzy Osbourne has been forgetting and mis-singing lyrics since the 70s, even with a teleprompter, and he is going to bust Bill Ward’s balls for using some sticky notes as cues? How about this, Osbourne: when I saw Sabbath in 05 on Ozzfest, you ruined the show for me with your inability to sing the material. Oh, except when you came back out after blowing notes really badly and storming off stage like a child, that was some fine lip-synching you did for the rest of the show. You were horrible, you couldn’t cut it, and yet you held your spot in the band. And that was at a time when you had fallen off the wagon big time. Hy-po-crite.

    • Bobby Anderson says:

      I saw the reunion tour in 1999. The first one I saw was amazing… Nassau Colliseum, 10th row on the floor, the band was firing on all cylinders. I told my friends and family how good the show was and brought about 10 people to the final show of the tour at Jones Beach. Godsmack opened and blew Sabbath off the stage. Ozzy’s voice was shot from note one of “War Pigs.” I was so embarrassed and disappointed that I sat in my seat through the entire show. Except when the teased “Supernaut;” I jumped up super excited until they stopped and went to the next song. If I wasn’t with the group I came to see the show with, I would have went home before they got to the guitar solo in “War Pigs.”

  26. The show must go on. Got to give credit for these guys doing it. I’ll be in philly to see them. If Ward can’t do it god bless him to let it out. The other guys love him as a brother. Bill at 65 doing metal for 2 hrs. not easy for anyone. Love him and the rest of the guys . I followed them for 38yrs.

  27. Richard K. MacDonald, Jr. says:

    Sure its about money. If RJD were still alive, he’d still be singing great. He didn’t abuse himself completely as Ozzy has done. His voice was always razor sharp. I saw maybe 20+ RJD shows, Elf, Rainbow, Sabbath, and solo. He always hit the notes. Can’t say the same for Ozzy. Hypocrite? Yes, he is. None of them can claim they were all totally clean 100% of the time all those years. Just my 2c.

  28. vinnie the wiz says:

    ozzy should s a t o

  29. Should have gotten Rondenelli back. Cross Purposes Live has killer drumming.

  30. Brian Burger says:

    It’s 35 years too late and 3/4 of Sabbath is not Sabbath so I’ll be saving my money! More power to the old farts to back up the Brinks truck and rob the fans of their money that’s capitalism at its finest. I’ll be staying home when they play Florida but I respect anyone that wants to give their hard earned money to this cash grab!

  31. Bill I hope you read this and get motivated. Release Beyond Aston and get back on that treadmill and get behind those drums again my friend. “I had no mercy for my drums,No mercy” _Bill Ward

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