3/16: TMS RECAP & UPDATE, KISS/DEF LEP, SOUNDGARDEN/NIN, MORE

Thanks to all who watched this weeks new That Metal Show last night. The show will repeat all week as usual on VH1 Classic. Dee is always a great guest. Always outspoken and never one to pull punches, which makes for great guests always in my opinion, regardless if you agree or disagree. At 59 he remains an incredibly strong singer and frontman and TS is an example of a band that has benefited greatly from not over touring. Ever since they first reunited for my NY Steel 9/11 benefit in 2001 they have only played an average of 10 shows a year, making it more special to see them, making them more money per show, and giving them higher billing than a band of their status would usually have on a festival. Interesting look at another approach compared to the many bands that tour constantly and also have members with many side bands. I am not judging either way, everyone needs to pay the bills, just interesting approach. Was also great to have Chris Caffery on. I am often asked about Savatage by radio listeners. The simple truth is TSO is way too big for the guys to focus on Savatage these days. But they do give a nod to that band often in the TSO shows. Chris played his Ace Frehley model Les Paul (Ace’s face on the head) and sounded great. Also nice to have Glenn Hughes check in. Stunning how great Glenn still sounds now in his mid 60′s! His new band California Breed and their debut album is an early contender for album of 2014 for me. It’s out in May.

 

This Tuesday we tape this Saturday’s new episode. Peter Criss will join us on set! Peter has not been on with us since the very early half hour days of TMS. Needless to say much to cover with him and we will do the full hour with the Catman. Ace Frehley may or may not join us for this show via Skype. Ace is in the middle of deadlines to finish his new album on the W Coast and likely won’t be able to get to NYC for our taping. But we hope to include him via Skype if our schedules match up. Either way should be a great show and our guest musician on drums with be Richard Christy. Most know Richard from the Howard Stern show but he is also a killer drummer who has played in several bands. 3 more new shows to come in our current new season of TMS. Final two episodes will feature Joe Satriani, Vinnie Paul, The Winery Dogs, Volbeat, Artie Lange and Jim Breuer. This has been our most diverse guest season yet and thank you all for the amazing response! Once we tape our last two shows 3/25 I’ll be hitting the road extensively, so please see the home page with my appearances and events and come say hello. More to be added!

 

The Kiss/Def Leppard tour officially announced tomorrow. Looks like Soundgarden & NIN are also teaming up. As discussed in the last Trunk Report bands co-headlining is becoming a huge trend more than ever to compete for the concert dollar and justify what are becoming very expensive events even beyond the cost of the tickets. It is far and few now of rock bands that can actually truly headline shows in the US with no name support playing large venues. Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, U2, Stones, McCartney, VH, Rush, AC/DC ones that come to mind. I get the co-headline is needed for business, but it does hurt in that young bands no longer have these chances for exposure. I know some bills put an unknown on 3rd billed, but the truth is these acts sometimes go on before 7P and off by 7:30 and few actually are in to see them. SO much great new music out there these days and it’s just another reason it is getting harder to expose.

 

Live on SiriusXM 39 TRUNKNation tomorrow 6-10P ET on channel 39. Join me for live music and talk that rocks!

Comments

  1. storminnorman says:

    How does it work for the Hell and Heaven thing in Mexico, did you/bands still get paid? All those airline tickets wasted. Was it the government being jerks at the last minute or just not planned well?

    • I don’t know how it works. I only know my end. Some bands were paid in full and they also had to buy their air. Every deal different

    • I live in Mx, we all agree here that it was a political thing. District whete it was going to be held is ruled by a left wing party, state where district is, run by official presidential party PRI ( right wing, quite corrupt) Theres also a monopoly when it comes to promoters, Ocesa is the entertainmet Co. That brings 90% of big name acts, this hurt their interests and did everything to block the event. Sad but true.

  2. Paul Simon / Sting
    Rod Stewart / Santana
    Lionel Richie / CeeLo Green
    KISS / Def Leppard (with Night Ranger)
    Motley Crue / Alice Cooper
    Boston / Doobie Brothers

    These are just some of the 2014 co-headlining summer tours. It’s been a trend in the business for at least 5-10 years now and as a fan, I love value for money. If newer groups want to be up there with the big boys, maybe they should start writing better songs!

    • Songwriting is a lost art – you nailed it! Especially in hard rock/metal. Sometimes in the late 1980s it became about the guitar solo. The tail started wagging the dog and for some reason next to none of those bands can fill much more than a club these days.

    • Brooklyn Lori says:

      Also Ken, Journey & Steve Miller, Foreigner/Styx/Don Felder, Boston & Cheap Trick, Peter Frampton & Doobies, Chicago & REO Speedwagon…

    • That’s just crazy. There are some great bands that put out great albums about every other year or so. They also put on great live shows. Godsmack, Alice in Chains, and Foo Fighters will kick the butts of every band in your list. I personally love Sting and Paul Simon, but I a not going to spend $200 to see guys that are as old as my dad. Another great album, Avenge Sevenfold’s newest albums is just smoking. Listen to satellite radio or Pandora and you might hear something released in the last 10 years. As in life, music changes…change with it. I have seen many of the groups you have listed. Give me Rush any day and some of who I listed, I’ll I ask is give me my moneys worth. Play for 2 plus hours please!!!! Then I don’t mind paying $125 or more per seat. Keep Rocking!

  3. Jeff White says:

    Hey Eddie I ‘m in The Columbus ,Ohio area . 1. will you be the area for book signings 2. back in the mid 70′s early 80′s ., in the Columbus area we had a couple bands wonder you heard of them The Godz and ROSIE . Mark Chatfield played guitar in both and with Bob Seager. If you never heard those bands check them out they rocked and should have been big in my opion …….. keep up the good work on TMS

  4. First, I am in love with TMS. Been watching since the beginning, always DVR to watch over and over again.

    Two quick comments/ suggestions:

    1/ How about inviting some producers on the show? Would love to hear some stories from the likes of Ted Templeman, Bob Rock, etc.

    2/ I noticed whenever there is a Christian metalhead on the show (Cooper, Sweet, Ellefson), there is never talk of their beliefs. It’s almost like there’s that proverbial elephant in the room. It could make for a great subject.

    3/ Speaking of Christians in metal, there is a guitar player by the name of Rex Carrol who plays for the band Whitecross — a Christian metal band from the 80′s that still gets around. Guy is a virtuoso. Would love to see him sit in as a guest musician. (There are several videos of him on YouTube).

    Thanks,
    Mel aka Riroon

    P.S. As always, keep up the excellent work!

    • VH1 wants names the public knows. Many do not know producers but I have them on my radio shows.
      We never talk religion regardless of the beliefs. Way too much to cover in artists career, they all have new stuff they want to plug, TV time is limited. Thanks

    • Nobody wants to hear all the religious talk, I for one would fast forward it or not watch at all. it’s about the music, not politics or any personal social crap. I’m glad Nugent kept it about music and did not go on one of his self important speeches…ugh! I would like to see some bands play though, and new bands like Rival Sons or Sasquatch.

    • Christian meathead? What a stupid comment…shows your ignorance.

  5. Norm Bouthillier says:

    Hey Eddie…here’s one for your top 5 board top 5 songs w/ the words rock in them….could be fun for you three to debate that on a TMS

    • Thanks

      • Andy Gotsch says:

        Here are a couple other ideas for the Top 5 Board that I think would be great:
        1. Top 5 Back-To-Back albums (i.e. Highway to Hell & Back in Black, Creatures of the Night & Lick It Up)
        2. First 5 Bands you would put in your fictional newly created Hard Rock/Metal Hall of Fame.

    • Roger jenkins says:

      It’s a long way to the top if you wanna rock and roll!

  6. Hey Eddie,

    One of those great up and coming bands is a band from Reading, PA, called Whiskey Demon. The band is a hard rock/southern metal band who recently has directly supported Kix and will be supporting Saliva, David Allan Coe, and Tesla on future shows. Check them out at whiskeydemon.com, I think you’ll enjoy it.

  7. Eddie,
    It seems from Dee’s comment about his book that there is bad blood between him and Nikki Sixx. Can you elaborate? It was obvious Dee was slamming the Herion Diaries.

  8. Let’s clear up something. The co-headlining thing does not give value for money. Both bands usually play shorter sets and the prices for these gigs is close to double what they would normally be. Especially the good seats. I can’t wait to see what Kiss and Leppard try to charge.
    I love Twisted Sister but the reason they don’t tour more is because Dee makes more doing other things so let’s call a spade a spade. Mark Mendoza would love to be on every tour they get offered.
    My recommendation to Eddie: just about anything Ryan Roxie has done. Casablanca, Electric Angels, Roxie 77 is ALL good. Have a great Sunday.

  9. Kiss showed you and everyone else that they could sell out bigger places than even Bon Jovi and the others bands you named, when they had the Reunion Tour and Farewell tour with originals, now they have to co-headline with Def Leppard and Motleys of the world and they are hard pressed to sell out the bigger venues packaged that way.

    • Klaus Baumgarten says:

      Absolutely. I just recently watched the Kissology DVD with the Psycho Circus tour again, filmed at L.A.’s Dodger Stadium, multiple 10,000 seats, probably biggest stage ever, selling it out themselves – and now Paul & Gene are trying to tell us that Kiss is as big as ever?? That the current imposter lineup is as huge as the original? Nope. As an example looking at the upcoming co-headlining tour: now they will be playing The Forum in L.A., an 18,000 seater (less than half of the aforementioned stadium) even thought it’s the two of them (I remember D.L. selling out stadium tours not sooo long ago ….) – now you draw your conclusions!

  10. Eddie, curious if you think this is the last tour for Kiss. It seems from previous Trunk reports that the end is in sight. Unless the drop off in quality is jaw dropping (certainly debatable whether it has reached that point), hard for me to think Kiss wouldn’t keep milking the cow for several more years. Would be nice to see it gracefully end with this tour after getting the Hall nod. When will the inductee for Kiss be announced? As always, another high quality TMS episode. Hope the trend is for more episodes per year.

    • Klaus Baumgarten says:

      Hope they will come to europe one more time with their 40th anniversary tour, not because I love the current lineup, but for sentimental reasons. they probably do not need to have that co-headlinign thing over here, they might sell out 10,000+ seaters alone. I guess, if that is going to happen, this will then be the last time we are going to see them here and the last drop of juice that Paul might be able to squeeze out of his fading voice before it will be totally gone. Sad that they did not recognize the right time to stop, like Judas Priest did.

  11. Jeremiah says:

    I saw an interview with Jay Jay French and he also said that Twisted Sister has had a rough ride to get where they are at this stage in their careers. They definitely deserve all their success. And Ed, if Dee figures out a way for his band to stay put and get the fans to come to him, please let me know. For years I’ve been trying to figure out a way to park my UPS truck in a parking lot and have the people come to me and get their packages!!! Thanks!!

  12. Hey Eddie, did you see the recent twitter exchange with some fans and gene Simmons? He basically bashed the 70′s fans and disrespected the by telling them that even though the 70′s fans made them stars, the answer to playing with Ace and Peter is NO! He sure has changed his tune, any thoughts?

  13. I agree that the co-headlining thing is what works in a lot of cases now. Carrying a tour on your own with these prices can’t work for most bands anymore and the touring festivals got to be too big. A perfect example for me is the Soundgarden/NiN tour. I will absolutely go to this where individually I would have sat on the fence and probably let it pass by. Having said that however I always, always go early enough to see any support band. I have discovered so many great bands that way going all the way back to first seeing Blackfoot open for UFO back around 1980. Even with YouTube and Facebook, finding new bands is difficult enough. As it is I hear a lot of new bands from Classic Rock magazine. It’s really saying something if I need to buy a British import mag to find a new American band. Their sampler discs have turned me on to bands such as Black Stone Cherry, Scorpion Child and Gaslight Anthem (from my native NJ!) before I heard them from any US outlets. Even if a band is going out on it’s own a lot of times the support band is someone on the way back down and not coming up. I’ve seen Poison, Cheap Trick and Heart in the last few years as purely support and not as co-headliners.

  14. Scott Greenberg says:

    “Final two episodes will feature Joe Satriani, Vinnie Paul, The Winery Dogs, Volbeat, Artie Lange and Jim Breuer.”

    Holy crap, Eddie that is an absolutely killer line-up of guests! Really loving that the show is back in NYC; with the new tape-on-Tuesday-air-on-Saturday thing, the episodes are much more current, and I feel like TMS is just getting bigger and better all the time. Keep up the great work. Horns up!

  15. Hey Eddie! Big fan of the show. Is it true that you are a big Soul Asylum fan? I’m told my band sounds like a mix of SA and Nirvana. Let me know what you think.
    https://soundcloud.com/prehab-1/04-not-coming-home?in=prehab-1/sets/i-havent-been-completely
    https://soundcloud.com/prehab-1/01-liar-liar?in=prehab-1/sets/i-havent-been-completely
    Thanks for the advice on KXM. That is a killer record! J / Prehab

  16. Beth Milligan says:

    Dee was indeed a ton of fun. Interesting man who really still has loads of energy, that’s clear. Have a great week Eddie.

  17. Chad Adelman says:

    Eddie, love TMS. I know you’ve said in the past that VH1 Classic wants more public/popular bands on air and that’s fine. Have you ever thought of doing a online only portion dedicated to the lesser know bands that you guys talk about in the quick CD reviews segments. Or maybe some bands that have been around but maybe are a little to far outside of the mainstream? Here are a few groups I’d like to see:
    Fates Warning, Devin Townsend, Tesseract, Intervals, Threshold, Animals As Leaders, Riverside, & Katatonia to name a few. Thanks for the show, please keep it going.

  18. Madonna is on that list too. Dosnt need support act.

  19. Eddie…
    Any chance hearing the California Breed single tomorrow night on Sirius? Can’t wait to hear… Otherwise early request to hear Iommi/Hughes “What You’re Living For” off of Fused!

  20. Stuart Alexander says:

    Great show, Eddie…..Dee was excellent, but seeing Chris made the show (HUGE TSO fan here). Outstanding musician and human being. Loved the props you gave to TSO; deservedly so. As for co-headliners….we’ve all seen this for well over 30+ years (let’s just say Dee and I are only months apart in age). Nothing new, it can be and usually is a wonderful experience. Lineups I saw in the ’70′s would blow your mind.

    Again, love the show…..keep up the excellent work……spoken as an axe-slinger for well over 40 years. :)

  21. I noticed there’s some new chatter from Gene Simmons … smack about the hall, smack about the performance and then lots of reference about “making a sandwich”. WTF? But hey, the LA KISS won their first game so maybe the simmer twins will pipe down and talk football instead of HOF politics. Looking forward to the show with Peter, will be interesting to hear his side.

  22. Peter Gilmour says:

    i hope TMS stays in NYC forever!!

  23. Watched tms last night,Dee snider never at a loss for words!, also was impressed with chris caffery!

  24. God of Thunder on Top 5?
    Very lame

  25. Are you going to the 1st night of M3 in MD? Would like to meet you guys.

    Bear

  26. Vinnie van Vincent says:

    And here’s another one for the top 5 board: best heavy metal/rock bands from non English speaking countries! Could be a really interesting discussion…Some bands to consider :Scorpions, Accept, Europe, Pretty Maid, King Diamond, Graveyard, Entombed ,Loudness , Vandenburg, Oz etc…

  27. Eddie,
    Anything to Nikki calling out Tommy and Mick for not coming to his wedding? I hope this tour doesn’t implode.

  28. These co-headlining tours would be great if they could break the duo up for some theater shows perhaps in key cities.

    I will say that I have bought more than 50% of opening act music for the various tours I attended. Not a bad track record for opening acts. This is still the best way to hear music for the first time. See it live, enjoy the experience and want to recreate that by listening at home or in the car.

  29. Great season so far. Really enjoying the fact that you tape weekly as opposed to all episodes over a long weekend. Makes it more timely from week to week. Also, Giants suck!

  30. Hey Eddie

    A few weeks ago you had a post about new bands and I mentioned The Parlor Mob from NJ.

    Rock on Dee \m/

    He knows!

  31. Steve D. says:

    How about updating the playlist section? Thanks.

  32. Frank T. says:

    Peter Criss had to wear the catman makeup on TMS! Oh man would that be so incredibly awesome! Any chance of that happening Eddie??? Can you ask him??

  33. wadrules1 says:

    Love the show. Hour long format is much better. Hard to believe that it’s been 13 seasons already. Can we get some more new bands on? KSE, Bullet, All That Remains, Parkway Drive, etc..

  34. Eddie, are you going to the Golden Gods? Is Jericho hosting again?

  35. Sinai Cruz-Santos says:

    Hey Eddie,
    Just wanted to say love your show! You guys prove that this music is not dead and it will never be!
    Greetings from Columbus, Ohio!

    Sinai

  36. Marty Connelly says:

    Just wanted to say that I think this is the best season yet for TMS. Great guests and features. Got a quick comment on Paul Stanley’s recent article about the HOF. He made a comment that he felt that Tommy and Eric should be inducted because they had played on multi-platinum albums. Correct me if I am wrong but I don’t think Sonic Boom or Monster have reached that status. Eric Singer was on Revenge, Alive III and Unplugged which probably reached Gold status, not sure about platinum. Eric Carr and Bruce Kulick played on more albums with higher sales. I understand him wanting to stand up for the current members but that is a pretty ridiculous statement concerning album sales.

    • Sonic and Monster not even Gold. Many facts they throw out there simply not true. They also said they have been in the band “decades”. Sure Eric was there in the 90′s, until he was replaced by Peter for the massive reunion for years, something left out…

      • Comparing Sonic and Monster to stuff in 80s / 90s when there was no iTunes is like apples and Oranges…..album sales for most bands have dropped in total due to cherry picking of songs. Not saying they would have sold more, but perspective also needed in fairness

  37. scariest Top 5 and no “Night Prowler” by AC/DC ?!?

  38. Kissnut91 Oracle09 says:

    Cmon you guys really if it wasnt for gene and paul thered be no
    creatures
    lick it up
    animalize
    asylum
    crazy nights
    hot n the shade
    REVENGE
    carnival of souls
    sonic boom
    monster
    kissolgy
    kiss symphomy
    rock the nation tour
    35 th anv tour
    sonic boom tour
    rock a.m
    etc etc etc etc

    Peter criss. ? ACE WHO

    • but without Peter, there would be no Criss Cat !!!!!

    • Joe Pensanti says:

      Kissnut: I can certainly live without all the records on your list except Creatures. The best song on Monster is Tommy’s, actually. Seriously. It’s the catchiest.

  39. What about the. Iced Earth/ Sabaton. Tour
    Comming up, 2,great bands

    Eddie. How. Bout some. Euro metal on yr,show
    Delain, Sabaton, and others,

    Can. We please,change the,channel
    Enough. Gene and Paul. Lol, money hungary guys

  40. Douglas Maher says:

    Cygnus X-1 or The Necromancer from Rush are far scarier songs than God of Thunder.

  41. I am going to get slammed for this because I love Dee Snider, but I thought this episode was poor. I am sick of Don Jamieson’s constant “Dick jokes.” If it is a part of his comedy act that is one thing, but for that to be heard on a regular cable/satellite network is classless. Some of us have children who love hard rock and metal and we are trying to educate them on the music. The channel was immediately changed after I heard that filth because I don’t want my kids exposed to that. I recall a few years ago when you had Doro Pesch on the show (love to see her on again) and Jamieson made another crack about his anatomy, she had this expression on her face for a moment that said it all. You could tell she was offended but because it was a rare opportunity for her to get some well-deserved U.S. coverage, she didn’t say anything. I remember at the time thinking how classless it was. I am not trying to be a stick in the mud and I like and respect you Mr.Trunk, but your cohosts have a little growing up to do (and yes I am a fan of both of them).

    • Mark Ellis says:

      These apparent ribald jokes were all censored out, at least on the West Coast, leaving long periods of no audio. Checked out Mount Salem on Jim’s recommendation, and must say, while I am interested in any Sabbath-influenced knock offs, the band has some evolving to do. The power trio has the Sabs sound down–right down to the S-G-toned guitar, but the female lead singer, while undeniably hot, is just a bit too generic and repetitive with her vocals. I don’t have a problem with high-pitched, clean vocals, but I suggest that this sexy witch rough things up from time to time, and channel the master of occult-influenced dual-toned vocals, King Diamond.

      A Ghost/Mount Salem show would be a clean-singing fest, and could work.

    • Actually, I think Jim is the dick-joke-guy … right? But I agree with Brad … you could hear the show screech to a halt. There should be plenty of other stuff to talk about, don’t you think? Still wondering why he was staring at the crotch of Cinderella’s bass player … Jim? starting to see a pattern dude.

    • One suggestion would be to DVR the TMS episode and watch it in advance before showing your children. I have a 9 and 7 year-old and it just makes life easier if you have any questions about content of any show. But I would respectfully say that young children are not the demo for this type of show…

  42. Im glad Peter Criss is going to be on that metal show, he never went Hollywood, he never lost that NYC attitude and since this HOF nonsense has gotten so out of control it will be great to hear someone respond other than in a press release. For all the idiots that want to write off the original era of the band the music from those albums still to this day are the lions share of the current KISS setlist, still he basis of the bands look and show and it was the chemistry of those four guys that made Kiss what it is today end of argument. if Paul and Gene stopped wearing the makeup after Ace and peter left the second time maybe you could give more credibility to the entire catalogue, then again if that were the case I doubt there would still be a kiss

  43. Love TMS for several reasons, but among them is discovering great guitar talent from some of the guest players. John 5 and now Chris Caffery are two perfect examples. I only knew of John through Manson, and MM’s stuff never really interested me that much. John’s versatility and virtuosity were completely and justly brought to light on TMS, and I now have a few of his CDs and DVDs. Chris was another real find. Never was into Savatage, but thought TMO was a pretty brilliant concept. Now, to hear him play for the second time – he just blows me away.

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