KISS frontman Paul Stanley was recently a guest on “The Joe Rogan Experience,” where he discussed his former bandmates drummer Peter Criss and guitarist Ace Frehley implying that they carried “a lot of resentment” over the fact that some of the other members of the band were more “focused” and “driven” to succeed than they were, which ultimately led them to sabotage their careers.
“It’s very difficult to move forward when two of the people are, at times, like flat tires,” Stanley explained [as transcribed by Blabbermouth]. “It becomes more of a problem when their reason for being is to foil and to throw off track what you’re trying to do. So, at some point, it really became more about trying to disrupt what we were trying to do with no regard to whether or not what they wanted to do was right or wrong; they just wanted, ‘Let’s screw Gene [Simmons] and Paul. So we’ll say no, and they’ll say yes.’ So it really became very, very, very difficult.”
Stanley claimed that he was in favor of splitting the band’s finances evenly in the early years, but that things changed once Ace and Peter started putting less effort into the group, leaving Paul and Gene to take over. This, in turn, caused a rift between the bandmembers, necessitating a change in the group’s lineup.
When asked why he thinks Ace and Peter were seemingly so intent on working against their bandmates, Stanley said, “I think self-sabotaging comes into it, because, I think, that’s been something that’s run through parts of their lives. But I also think that there was a lot of resentment. And, honestly, I don’t believe in resenting people for what they can do that you can’t. if you’re lucky enough to have people around you who can do what you can’t, make them your best friend. Everybody can’t be the best at what they do, but you can benefit from being around those people. So, look, I never wanted or expected anybody in the band to do necessarily the same amount of work that I did, but I expected them to give a hundred percent. I was all for splitting things evenly in the original lineup of the band up until those guys departed the first time, but you have to give your best.”
He continued, “I think [our] focus and drive and determination and seeing the whole picture and wanting this to be as good as it could be, as opposed to falling back on, ‘It’s rock and roll.’ Well, rock and roll is no excuse for mediocrity, and rock and roll is no excuse for not doing your job. If somebody says, ‘Oh, my playing is rock and roll.’ No, that’s just bad. You know, there’s bad and then there’s rock and roll…Look, it’s a long time ago, and it’s kind of like talking about a girlfriend or wife you had a long time ago and trying to disseminate what went wrong. At some point it really doesn’t matter.”
Stanley says that ego clashes and disagreements over songwriting credits contributed to creating an unhealthy environment and he makes no apologies for taking charge of the group.
“I don’t know the mentality that wants to sabotage what ultimately benefits you,” Stanley said. “Look, if you’re in a band that’s doing great and you’re not the primary songwriter and the primary singer, well, you should revel in what you have. You know, the idea of equality… Some have to be more equal than others. Everybody can be in car together, but somebody’s gotta drive. We’re all going in the same direction. But when people reach the point of saying, ‘Well, I want an equal amount of songs.’ Well, do we leave off ‘Strutter’ so we can put your song on, or do we leave off ‘Detroit Rock City’? It doesn’t work like that. I don’t believe that there’s any birthright or that we should expect a quota in anything. We get what we deserve, and somebody has to decide that.”
He continued: “The key to a great band or any great situation is doing what’s best for the situation, not what’s best for you. I don’t have to be right, I just wanna see the right thing happen. So if you’re more tied up in the ego gratification or in the control factor… I honestly don’t mean to control anything, but I do have a point of view, and I guess I’ve earned my place at this juncture. But everybody gets a chance to state their views, and hopefully they are always with the best intentions, and I think that’s the way the band works now. We have a drummer [Eric Singer] who doesn’t like to take a solo, and this guy could play a better solo with one hand than most drummers could play with every limb of their body. So it’s all for one and one for all.”
In other KISS news, The Pulse Of Radio reports that “Love Gun: Deluxe Edition” will be made available on October 27th. The two-disc CD features the original 1977 album, along with a bonus disc featuring assorted demos and live tracks.
Vintage Vinyl describes the release as “the first disc includes a remastered version of the original album while disc two has demos, three live performances from a 1977 Lakeland, Florida concert and an interview with Gene Simmons. A rarity for any expanded edition of an album, the deluxe edition includes a glimpse into Paul Stanley’s creative process on Love Gun (Teaching Demo) with Stanley talking through the various chords of the song.”
Love Gun: Deluxe Edition track list:
Disc 1 (Original Album):
I Stole Your Love
Christine Sixteen
Got Love For Sale
Shock Me
Tomorrow And Tonight
Love Gun
Hooligan
Almost Human
Plaster Caster
Then She Kissed Me
Disc 2 (Demos, Interviews & Live)
Much Too Soon (Demo)
Plaster Caster (Demo)
Reputation (Demo)
Love Gun (Teaching Demo)
Love Gun (Demo)
Gene Simmons Interview (1977)
Tomorrow And Tonight (Demo)
I Know Who You Are (Demo)
Love Gun (Live 1977)
Christine Sixteen (Live 1977)
Shock Me (Live 1977)
148 Responses
Paul needs to spend less time bashing former bandmates and more time with a voice coach…bashing someone else to make yourself look better is a sign of insecurity…and instead of remastering old albums, try writing a good one for a change…highly doubt they’ll remaster sonic boom or monster in 20 years…
Good point. No need to remaster crap albums. Very cool that there was “new” KISS out there, but these were total letdowns. Three listens to boom, two for monster; now forever on the shelf….
His whole “drive to success” might have been fueled by his trauma of being resented because he looked different (the ear issue, you know, that he keeps on telling us). Still, it is a big sign of insecurity, immaturity and self-importance that he keeps on shooting at the people who helped him become famous in the first place, he would not have achieved that on his own even though he sometimes likes to see himself as the one and only important member in Kiss – far from it. He is best at songwriting, might be the best s.w. in Kiss, but Gene’s appearance is much more iconic, and Ace is much more talented a s a musician, so he must find something else to make himself feel good at the expense of others. He has done so for decades now, so no surprises. I feel sorry for him, all the millions of dollars and all the fame and he is still as desperately seeking attention as if still a teenager.
It’s been documented numerous times how insecure Paul Stanley has been his entire life. He cannot handle criticism and loves pointing the finger at others along with cutting you off if you’re not on board with whatever is happening with Kiss in the now! That’s a fact, Eddie is a prime example.
Those who know deep inside (even though they do not talk about it in puplic) that they belong to the best often are the ones who are totally relaxed, friendly, calm and even humble, they are secure, they are sure of who and what they are and can let their work (music) do the talking – let us take Geddy Lee/Alex Lifeson as an example. Those whose talents are quite limited compared to them need to shout out how fantastic they are – like Rush versus Kiss. Doesn’ t mean I do not like both their music and that they are not good in their own respective field, but the difference in off-stage behaviour is apparent.
It…..never……ends. No appearance with Eddie, but Paul is on the Joe Rogan Experience? Yikes….
I’m a Kiss die-hard for the 74′-2000 era of the band and have lost all respect for those mean, lying, egomaniac bastards Simmons & Stanley –
They will say whatever they have to in order to extract every nickel from the Kiss Zombies who still pay to see them and have said that the original band is “long gone” although long gone members are impersonated at every concert. The band that should’ve gone out legends has been reduced not only to a parody of itself but to an onslaught of verbal diarrhea from it’s two founding members and this is another example. Kiss is watering down it’s legacy on a yearly basis.
Paul’s apparent “drive” to success (vulgo: money and fame) brought them here – being a parody of they they once were.
You are about as smart as my shoe, guitarslinger. All your posts are manifestly biased and inane.
So your shoe is biased, hm? Left or right spin? What a bunch of illogical banter from you. If everyone would be of the same opinion here, would you care to come here and read the posts, even give a comment, intellectual beast that you are??
You hit the mail on the head! When someone thinks of Tyson, you think of the fool biting off a dude’s ear, a fool with a face tattoo, not the insane champ that he was for years. Retire on top! Unfortunately, this is not the case here.
maybe Tyson bit off paul’s ear.
Love Gun could be my favorite album. Hooligan is the only weak link in my opinion. Almost Human could be the most underrated song in the KISS catalogue.
I was a fan of the original band, today`s lineup…not so much. I am tired as hell of hearing about ace & peter not doing this or that, maybe partying too much or whatever! what happened between the 4 should remain there in the past. would it be too much to ask to just say good luck with the new record ace, or hey peter, hope things are good?