KISS ANNOUNCE “KISS ROCKS VEGAS” LAS VEGAS RESIDENCY STARTING NOVEMBER 5TH

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1. My only hope for the future is that as Gene and Paul are phased out is that everything goes okay for Tommy and Eric. They seem like good guys and they are talented musicians. They will be waving the KISS banner for many years to come. These guys will be playing KISS classics as those songs turn 50 years old. Just awesome. You don’t retire anything as fantastic as KISS. I was 2 when KISSes first album came out. I hope to go see their 100th anniversary tour in 60 years. I can’t wait. Keep KISS going at all costs. They are without a doubt the best musical group of all times.

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2. Its obvious they are bleeding every last dollar out of the brand before his voice goes 100%,its close to that now.touting they are bigger than ever is laughable,as its been said you go out as a headliner not a co headliner.you do a full 2hr show not 60mins. you have a real new stage set not a movable lighting truss on a bland stage with just a bigger than before video screen and the same lifts used yr after yr,you don’t do the same gags year after year.Gene flys, paul does the fake sound meters,flys over the audience,same stupid bazooka gag,same colored pyro bangs in the same songs.same setlist.
   Its all designed for the kiss fans with little kiddies to bring along and see some fireworks going off.
   Its not a rock n roll show.Its “disney meets kiss”
   The trouble with kiss is they surround themselves with brown nosed yes men who won’t say anything.How can you not want to say” paul you sound like complete shit.what’s new,???” where’s the apocalyptic stage show thats touted all the time.its just the same pretty colored pyro,take away the production whats left??? watch any youtube video and just listen to the audio,its horrendous.
   two fake members is the icing on a stale cake..its not kiss its the gene paul thing and wotsit band..

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   1. Interestingly enough yours is the first post I have read talking about the flaws of the Spider Stage design which Paul is so proud of – you are right, it is actually just a moving lighting truss. here is nothing more intricate or interesting about it. (If you do not believe, look at U2’s 360 stage e.g for what is possible if you do not fear the expenses and hire a professional from outside the band to create something really good – talking about giving the fans their money’s worth). So it is very cheap (financially and artistically) compared to the stage sets of other bands as big and drawing similar crowds/playing similarly big venues. Just because today’s state-of-the-art moving stage lights are providing such a wonderful(ly cloured) light that “fills” the empty space people might not understand that this production design is probably the cheapest and most boring they have done in decades. I did like the design for 2012 much better. The bazooka gag is really pretty stupid because it is taking the even bizarre gag with the burning/shooting guitar to an extreme that is not interesting anymore, only laughable. At this point in the show the comparison of Ace with Tommy (every longtime fan subconsciously will make) to me seems the most obviously ridiculous. Unfortunatley you are also right in saying that Kiss has not invented/added any new stage gag/basic variation to the show since I don’t know when. The flying, the blood, the fire, it is all OK, we expect it to happen, but where is at least one more of these gags to be added? One new idea? Many other big bands constantly come up with new stage sets or variations to their show when they set out to sell big venues again. I do not know why so many fans still semm to be satisfied with the same show year after year. They would not be satisfied with a new Transformers movie not topping the last one. So Kiss cannot claim it is the greatest show on earth like it might have been in the late 70s, today there are dozens of bands out there with a bigger or more extravangantly designed and often also moving video screen (e.g. Rush, Rolling Stones), a more sophisticated lighting system etc., they are just repeating their advertising slogans and as long as many fans do not care and keep buying tickets, they will continue to do so. I would be pleased if they created a fresh, overwhelming, expensive and surprising stage set again and do a real farewell tour next year which stops in every part of the world. That would surely draw large audiences and thus make them a lot of money, and rightfully so. But that won’t happen, I guess.

   2. WAR AND PEACE?

   3. You read Tolstoi’s novel? Hm, don’t think so …

   4. I think you have covered just about everything you hate about KISS and the current lineup schocoman! What’s next on your list?

   5. You are really narrow-minded not seeing that if someone is critical it does not mean he dislikes everything about the thing (here: the band) in question – people like you obviously think in black-and-white schemes and cannot imagine that one can be critical and annoyed about something or someone and still clearly see what is still good about the selfsame something or someone. So please try to use your imagination before you post these black-and-white commentaries. It is a question of being able to change perspectives, now can you? If you have actually read all my posts you MIGHT have realized that I do not bash the entire band, music, etc. of Kiss. But all the same, you just like your world to be divided into haters and lovers, right? Good (you) and bad (me), right? It is much easier that way, that’s true. Do your really think that what people post here and elsewhere on similar forums is all they have to say, all they think, all they are? Then you have totally misunderstood how this here virtual reality works.

3. Very Simple – If you don’t like KISS or the current lineup, don’t go see them. Many will go and have a great time. Everyone has a choice. I have been a fan for a long time and of all lineups of the group. KISS would not be touring right now if only the 4 original members were in the band. I hate to say it, but Peter cannot play a full show anymore.

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   1. and paul can sing one song in a show anymore????

   2. … he is paying Eric good money (relatively speaking) to both repleace Peter AND sing his chorusses. so that’s two for (almost) the price of one.

   3. I saw them in Portland. On this tour they have Paul singing songs in that are in a lower keys so his voice overall sounds better – King of the Nighttime World, Hotter Than Hell, etc. Lick it Up is played by the band in a lower key than the original I think. But he sounds better when he is not reaching for those high highs. He’s got company. Anyone put Celebration Day up against the originals? Many keys were lowered for Plant to hit the notes for that gig. The difference here is that Plant decided not to go on tour and try it every night. 🙂

      Regarding the stage show, I was very underwhelmed on the Crue/KISS tour and thought KISS was really phoning it in, having Tommy/Eric do a big solo segment instead of four more songs (in a short show already). This tour so far, no Tommy songs, no big solo sections, just a nice solid set list. And sorry, I like the spider light rig. It looks really cool and they do a lot with it.

   4. Not that I agree with everything you said, but–good post!

   5. If you like the spider, that’s OK. I was also quite satisfied that LZ did not try to expand the great O2 gig on a world tour, although, of course, I would have tried to get tickets, but it is a smart move not to ruin your legacy trying to pretend you are still young. And it is much harder for Plant than for Page, i.e. for a singer than for a guitarist. Bad comparison, but same with Abba who were offered a billion!!! for a world tour about a decade ago (when they were still younger than G and P are today) but declined saying that they would not be able to live up to their legacy and therefore would not want to spoil it … that is the right spirit while it is, of course, still sad for the fans of a certain band not being able to see them again. All these rock bands of the 70s that have become iconic and essentially influential in this genre had/have tenors as singers, so for them it is even more strenuous to keep their voice intact. Kiss has always recioded their songs in E flat etc. (I had a hard time trying to play their songs until I finally discovered the fact that it was all simple chords but just tuned down) now they are playing their songs one more half-tone tuned down (now being a full note down to D) which to some extent also changes the feel and sound of the songs. If you play guitar you know that tuning down a full step or more substantially changes the sound of the same riff you are playing to darker, heavier – but Kiss has never had a “metal” sound. Other bands do and did so as well. What you are referring to, I think, is rather that they chose songs from the catalogue in which Paul does not have to sing THAT high, and they also have included a bit more songs for Gene, so that and the fact that Tommy and esp. Eric are covering makes it sound a bit better than the last tour, but still one must admit that Paul’s voice is nearly done, at least with regard to being able to wheather thorough a lengthy tour. For a comparison, I watched The Who’s cioncert at Wembley Arena 2013 the other night and Daltrey’s vpoice also shows clear signs of age (he was 69 at the time) but he is able to deal with it in a classy way so it fits and so they still sound great together. He is a good example of how to get old as a singer and still remain voice as well as class and dignity without letting the fans down.

4. Ppl that say comments from fans about cur rent kiss are all together not haters. I had considered myself looking back as a true longtime fan since 5yrs old in 1977 and I am simply saying that as a longtime fan to me personally I think the kiss legacy is destroyed and I blame paul for that one.I say thaT because of direction of band today.2nd thing is the band today n makeup is not the band I had come to love for all those yrs n3rd I think that kiss has shit on a good part of their fans base with the notion of take it or leave it attitude and they have done it without respect for ex members and the fans .I personally can’t wait for them to retire.bands do replace members and that ok. But in kiss when u have something that each member designed and was a part of their own personal character I just dint see it fitting why didn’t they dress vinnie or Eric carr in peter n ace makeup back then . It was wrong n they knew so today I think its about power trips and paul all full of himself . The guy I thought for decades I would never disagree with in terms of kiss I find my self today seeing way to many faults within him and the band . Ppl this is not kiss and will never be. Its the watered down version of what the best version is and was and thats what they are again selling to you. Question is. Are you buying it… I know im not

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5. Funny how most comments are not about this residency, but a reason for people to just spew hate for the band…does anyone really have a problem with this residency that didn’t already have issue with Eric and Tommy in makeup??? If this was the original four doing Vegas would any of you haters have an issue with it??? OF COURSE NOT!! So those of you who have issue with the band as it is today, have no right to comment, because your opinion is biased in the first place. I have my issue with the “current KISS”, but I choose to still see them because it is a celebration of what the band was…Get over this people, why spend your time commenting about them if you hate them? It’s because unlike any band EVER, KISS is polarizing with everything they do…How many other bands have re-invented themselves this much?? And how many bands make fans as crazy as they do??? No one (maybe Metallica) but let’s just all agree they were great and if you don’t like what they are doing now, don’t support it, but stop with the nonsense…The so-called “haters” on this site are more embarrassing than anything Gene or Paul has ever done…

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