EDDIE TRUNK DISCUSSES HIS NEW BOOK AND HIS DISDAIN OF THE TERM “HAIR METAL”
Chad Bowar of About.com recently interviewed very own Eddie Trunk. Portions of the discussion appear below.
Q: Is a second book like a second album, where you have your whole life to do the first one, but only a few months for the second one and a lot more pressure and expectations?
A: That’s a great question. (laughs) Certainly the expectation is there for people who have the first book. The first book was incredibly well-received by most people, more so than I think me or my publisher ever envisioned. All the elements
that people loved about the first book: the layout, the mix of photos versus text, the personal stories, the playlists, all the anecdotes; they are all there. This book is a sequel in the truest sense of the word.
The big difference of course is this one has 35 chapters on bands that were not in the first book. I really wanted to include many of these bands in the first book, but I ran out of space. I hope it lives up to the expectations and the precedent that was set by the first book. Obviously, as you move into another 35 bands, not every one is going to be a household name. But a lot of people are looking forward to reading about some of the more off-the-radar bands. And there’s plenty about established bands, as well.
Q: Was there an artist or artists that people complained weren’t included in the first book that you were able to put in this one?
A: I didn’t really hear from so many people about bands that weren’t in the first book. I did hear from a lot of people about bands that were in the first book that they were kind of surprised about. An example of that would be Bon Jovi. Younger people especially don’t quite understand the connection that Bon Jovi had with this scene when they first came on it. If you’re not my age (I’m 49), you might not understand that they were very much a part of the hard rock/metal scene early on, and have evolved past it. Billy Squier, same story, from book one.
There were a couple of bands that I’m personally very close to that weren’t included in the first book that are in this one. People were like, “I can’t believe you didn’t include Overkill in the first book.” Overkill is a band that I was personally very close to from the beginning, being they were a Jersey band, and they are still friends to this day. One of the guys said, “Jesus, we’ve known this guy for 30 years and didn’t make his book!” (laughs).
It was nothing personal, I love Overkill. But each book has to be a balance between bands I feel are important to include, bands I feel are important to include because of my personal relationship with them, and there are bands that I’m a really big fan of that maybe weren’t ever all that popular, but I want to include. So it’s got to be a balance. Obviously you have to have some name bands in there so that the book sells and enough people recognize the names. Then there are those bands that I love and want to talk about. So I’m happy to say Overkill is in this book, as are Testament, who were a big part of my early years in the music industry. Same with White Lion. I have a huge history with those guys. In this book I was able to include those guys and get their stories out.
Q: One band that’s included in the book that you have championed is Y&T, who I think are very underrated.
A: I’ve always loved Y&T. As a kid I used to go see them at clubs like L’Amours in Brooklyn in the early ‘80s. I’ve seen them so many times over the decades. I think Dave Meniketti is one of the great singers and guitar players who doesn’t get the accolades he should. I was really glad to be able to include them. One of the things that happened with the first book that I hope happens with this book is that you have the big bands that everybody knows like Ratt and Whitenake. But you also have Y&T and Riot and Angel, bands that maybe not everybody knows. That is something I hope people get turned onto through the book. Everything I’ve ever done is about sharing music that I love and maybe getting people to discover stuff they didn’t know about.
Q: Some classify Y&T as “hair metal,” a term you do not like and have talked about on your show. Do you have a problem with it if it’s used as a term of endearment?
A: I’m not the thought police (laughs). I just say how I feel about things. Why I was vocal about that is that mostly younger people that didn’t grow up in the times where these bands were crucified, don’t realize that was born as a derogatory term. It was a statement that was applied to these guys that really hurt them for decades. I had Jake E. Lee on That Metal Show recently, and he said he couldn’t get gigs throughout the ‘90s because every time he’d go in for an audition, bands would say, “There’s that hair metal guy.”
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Was not too fond of the term hair metal. I called it glam rock. But what killed that scene was “the ballad”. Top 40 radio started playing all the ballads out there, from tesla, to LA Guns to Whitesnake, even Metallica. When grunge came along it was back to basics. Alice in Chains, my favorite grunge band, brought back the doomy, crunchy guitar sounds…a la black sabbath. we needed to get back to basics.
But…unfortunately, the music industry now, has hit the sh*ts. I live in LA and there is no metal station. I have to drive 45 miles east to get hear metal.
That is a spot on analysis. It got to be so predictable that every band would have the token ‘ballad’ on every record, and many of those were really good songs. And when said ballads started being played on the radio all the time, we started getting 2 or 3 ballads from some bands, which was definitely not a good thing. Never let it be said that record labels don’t know how to take a good thing and absolutely kill it. Agreed on AIC, by the way, Facelift was terrific record. Much better than the BS we got from Nirvana. Jerry Cantrell is a great songwriter – his solo stuff hasn’t gotten a ton of play but it is pretty damn good.
Peter Criss’ solo albums suck.
after reading your comments the other day dana, i feel compelled to write the following; eddie, i would like to offer an apology for my comments toward your career, etc…. at 50, i too have a passion and knowledge for this music unfortunately, i could not make that a career in broadcasting. following your career since the mideighties and appreciating what you have done for this industry( i do compare you to don kirshner, dick clark etc…) i also felt that given the chance i could have something to contribute to this media given the chance. i even tried but,( unsuccessful) at meeting you at a joey kramer/ mohegan sun event a couple of years ago. hoping that a chance meeting or conversation could help me in the right direction.being a fan of your show ,there”s apart of me that is envious, doing a job that you love with your friends( sorry don and jim) using your passion to educate people on the power that this music has to offer etc…. that”s why when i found that( speak your mind) instead of commenting on the”term hair metal” it turned into a senseless, jealously fueled rant that i “m truly sorry for. you deserve all of your success and instead of wanting to be a part of what you have accomplished, i should examine my own shortcomings and try to move on from this. i hope you can understand why i wrote this and accept this apology.
Both anti-glam thrash and glam metal had it’s share of good technical musical work. But, my opinion of both of the genre’s philosophies stink. Although one of my favorite genre’s is dark/cold/new wave, I do listen to some heavy metal and punk rock (there’s the metal that’s good/bad, and there’s the punk rock that’s good/bad)