As I have said consistently since the announcement that Kiss will be going into the HOF, now is when much of the discussion and negotiation on what goes down starts to happen. You have what Ace and Peter want, what Gene & Paul want, and what the HOF itself wants to happen, and somewhere it all needs to be worked out. With the holidays behind us expect info to come out as we get closer to the date and the various parties talk. There is already some very differing information coming out now as a matter of fact. If you listen to my interview with Ace (now on my home page for all to hear), it is clear he would like the original band to be featured since they are the members actually being inducted. Speaking of that, there has been much debate since the announcement on even this topic. The HOF makes that call and they decided the founding members only. That’s what I was told by several people who actually have votes. That could also be an issue on how this goes down and something being discussed internally. My view on it personally is if it isn’t just the original band, then it should be ALL the people that have been a part of it. But everyone has consistently told me, including voters, it is only the original four actually being inducted. That does not mean however that others from the bands history won’t be there and won’t even potentially be involved as was the case with Heart and others. Ace also stated in the interview with me the HOF wanted the band in makeup which he was open to. Both Peter and Ace said they spoke with Gene and Paul and vibes were good before the holidays. Ace expressed concern in my interview about how the current band would be represented vs him and Peter who are actually being honored. Ace’s concern is also likely fueled by a VH1 Rock Honors event in 2006 where he was in the strange position of not being allowed to play with Kiss, while Tommy did dressed as him. Ace played with the tribute band that night to Kiss.
Last night Paul Stanley’s twitter account showed a glimpse into the very different views about what will and won’t go down and the issues that still need to be worked through. You can check the feed for yourself @paulstanleylive When asked last night if the original band would play together at the HOF his response is “seems unlikely”. When asked if he thinks working with Ace & Peter would be better now that both are sober he responded “No”. When asked if he would wear makeup with Ace & Peter he responded “No way”.
This is clearly a shift in what fans thought and were hoping for and what Ace and Peter mentioned. It also points to the various egos, posturing and control issues that could turn something the fans have wanted for 15 years into a train wreck! Paul’s answers do not surprise me at all. For Gene and Paul this puts them in a tough spot having to reconnect with members they’d prefer not to deal with no doubt, and who they have spent the last 10 years trying to recreate in the current band. Quite frankly coming out with the original band once again in makeup opens up a huge can of worms with fans that they have been trying to keep a lid on for a decade. It does not work with what they are currently trying to sell so well. And make no mistake, like it or not, they know seeing the original four in makeup again would be HUGE for fans and put a dent in what they have been selling to fans; that it doesn’t matter so much who’s behind the makeup. So you can already see how some of this is playing out. Gene & Paul on one side trying to protect the current Kiss and not go down reunion road again, and Ace & Peter wanting to be sure their night being inducted pays tribute to them, and not other versions of the band not being inducted. Nobody wearing makeup would take away some of the confusion as to who is who, but as per Ace the HOF really wanted the band in costume.
I understand Gene & Paul wanting to protect their current business model. Trust me, they know and have seen first hand the avalanche a reunion, even for a few hours, with Ace & Peter will cause (MTV Unplugged). It would be nice to think for one night the fans could celebrate the original bands induction with all of them working together for a few hours. Then bring up everyone from KISStory at the end for a jam or something. But I suspect this has many twists and turns still to come and Paul’s tweets last night give just a little peak into how this could unfortunately get very messy. If you are planning on buying tickets to this to see a Kiss reunion even for a couple songs as many have told me, I would seriously hold off. Looks like much still to be decided and as per Paul’s verified Twitter account it doesn’t sound promising at the moment. Listen to the interview with Ace I did a couple weeks ago, then read Paul’s tweets last night. This isn’t me stirring the pot or with any inside information. Just doesn’t take a genius to see there are some very different opinions as to how this should go down already. We shall see…I’m sure much more as we go.
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As long as Vinnie Vincent gets inducted, everything will be ok. Wait…what?
you mean Victoria Vincent? Lol
In my opinion everybody should be inducted no makeup at all just do It like they did symphony gene paul ace peter act 1 gene paul to my Eric act 2 gene paul ace peter Vinnie Bruce Tommy Eric act 3 jam that way every body gets to play
HUGE Kiss fan, in fact being born in 1970 and from Michigan they were the only group I knew for years and was waiting for the day they were inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame so that I could attend a ceremony as I wanted Kiss to be the first I saw live. After hearing comments from the various members of the band, and I acknowledge I don’t know all the details between each member other then what’s public but come on get over it for a few hours for us fans and to be honest if they don’t I am DONE WITH KISS FOREVER!!!! Without the Kiss ARMY the whole lot of you would be nothing more then talented musicians working real jobs dealing financial worries I’m sure none of you have had for yours. You are grown ass men and if you cant suck it up for the ARMY then I cant spend another penny nor precious second of my life on a bunch of ingrates!!!!
Ed, sometimes I like sometimes you’re a joke, there’s not one hint that this has anything to do with how the originals are getting on. Probably has more to do with posturing to show the Hall that they want their demands met, then again it could be the 2 you champion so much crying because other members would be included.
Yes you figured it out…! wow..scary..
ed!. big question that hasn been answered yet. who do you think! ill induct kiss into the hall that special evening?. and whom! do you personality think! should induct the band in. would love to hear your views on the matter. p.s. great interview! on the three sides of the coin podcast. couple of weeks ago. god bless.
I think Alice Cooper should induct them. No idea who, but that is a decision made by the HOF and band, and the HOF always wants a cool hip rock person with “cred”.
HA ha
I’ve been a KISS fan since Rock n Roll Over came out. I bought any magazine that had KISS poster and interviews, the bubblegum cards, belt buckle, necklace, etc.. As a kid I mowed a lot of yards to help support the band. That band was Ace, Peter, Paul, and Gene. The other guys are fine musicians, but they are and always will be impersonators (understanding the originals were alter egos). I have supported the new lineup by attending the shows but they do NOT hold a candle to the magic the original four produce. Maybe its the nostalgia thing. Regardless, KISS the originals are responsible for all things KISStory past and present. The replacements could have been anyone talented enough, but the catalyst that put the band on the map included Ace and Peter.
If they can’t play with Peter and Ace, then Paul Stanley should pull an Axl Rose and not show up!