As I have said consistently since the announcement that Kiss will be going into the HOF, now is when much of the discussion and negotiation on what goes down starts to happen. You have what Ace and Peter want, what Gene & Paul want, and what the HOF itself wants to happen, and somewhere it all needs to be worked out. With the holidays behind us expect info to come out as we get closer to the date and the various parties talk. There is already some very differing information coming out now as a matter of fact. If you listen to my interview with Ace (now on my home page for all to hear), it is clear he would like the original band to be featured since they are the members actually being inducted. Speaking of that, there has been much debate since the announcement on even this topic. The HOF makes that call and they decided the founding members only. That’s what I was told by several people who actually have votes. That could also be an issue on how this goes down and something being discussed internally. My view on it personally is if it isn’t just the original band, then it should be ALL the people that have been a part of it. But everyone has consistently told me, including voters, it is only the original four actually being inducted. That does not mean however that others from the bands history won’t be there and won’t even potentially be involved as was the case with Heart and others. Ace also stated in the interview with me the HOF wanted the band in makeup which he was open to. Both Peter and Ace said they spoke with Gene and Paul and vibes were good before the holidays. Ace expressed concern in my interview about how the current band would be represented vs him and Peter who are actually being honored. Ace’s concern is also likely fueled by a VH1 Rock Honors event in 2006 where he was in the strange position of not being allowed to play with Kiss, while Tommy did dressed as him. Ace played with the tribute band that night to Kiss.
Last night Paul Stanley’s twitter account showed a glimpse into the very different views about what will and won’t go down and the issues that still need to be worked through. You can check the feed for yourself @paulstanleylive When asked last night if the original band would play together at the HOF his response is “seems unlikely”. When asked if he thinks working with Ace & Peter would be better now that both are sober he responded “No”. When asked if he would wear makeup with Ace & Peter he responded “No way”.
This is clearly a shift in what fans thought and were hoping for and what Ace and Peter mentioned. It also points to the various egos, posturing and control issues that could turn something the fans have wanted for 15 years into a train wreck! Paul’s answers do not surprise me at all. For Gene and Paul this puts them in a tough spot having to reconnect with members they’d prefer not to deal with no doubt, and who they have spent the last 10 years trying to recreate in the current band. Quite frankly coming out with the original band once again in makeup opens up a huge can of worms with fans that they have been trying to keep a lid on for a decade. It does not work with what they are currently trying to sell so well. And make no mistake, like it or not, they know seeing the original four in makeup again would be HUGE for fans and put a dent in what they have been selling to fans; that it doesn’t matter so much who’s behind the makeup. So you can already see how some of this is playing out. Gene & Paul on one side trying to protect the current Kiss and not go down reunion road again, and Ace & Peter wanting to be sure their night being inducted pays tribute to them, and not other versions of the band not being inducted. Nobody wearing makeup would take away some of the confusion as to who is who, but as per Ace the HOF really wanted the band in costume.
I understand Gene & Paul wanting to protect their current business model. Trust me, they know and have seen first hand the avalanche a reunion, even for a few hours, with Ace & Peter will cause (MTV Unplugged). It would be nice to think for one night the fans could celebrate the original bands induction with all of them working together for a few hours. Then bring up everyone from KISStory at the end for a jam or something. But I suspect this has many twists and turns still to come and Paul’s tweets last night give just a little peak into how this could unfortunately get very messy. If you are planning on buying tickets to this to see a Kiss reunion even for a couple songs as many have told me, I would seriously hold off. Looks like much still to be decided and as per Paul’s verified Twitter account it doesn’t sound promising at the moment. Listen to the interview with Ace I did a couple weeks ago, then read Paul’s tweets last night. This isn’t me stirring the pot or with any inside information. Just doesn’t take a genius to see there are some very different opinions as to how this should go down already. We shall see…I’m sure much more as we go.
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Dear Gene and Paul,
If the past is so damn painful then eliminate everything from 1979 on in you current set list. Since your are so damn afraid to play with the the 2 guys that helped you CREATE IT, then remove all of your association with them. The original band is who you are, why your are, and why you still continue to exist to this day. I have been a fan since 1976 and I am disgusted by your treatment of the MY Kiss Army. This should be our greatest day as a group and fan base and your greed and stupidity is going to ruin ruin it. Do the letter FO mean anything to you. COWARDS your egos just will not allow you to admit that the original 4 in make up has been and always will be your cash cow.
its clearly because of aces interview with Eddie, Ace demanding doesnt work. Call Paul tell him youll play without makeup with all members
It’s beginning to look ugly. Kiss please retire! Now is the best time. Go out with one final bang!
Kiss squabbles are what make people not detest arrogant musicians. Worried about their business plan. How much money is enough ? Do what the people who GAVE you more money than you can spend on hair plugs and bad plastic surgery want. This band is way more full of themselves then they have any right to be. They make money, have a visual gimmick that sells. Doesn’t make them a great or influential band and hardly makes them great musicians. Music goes in my ears, not my eyes. When they came out we were listening to Rainbow (with Dio) and Montrose (1st album). Kiss was a joke, all show with no go. The Hall of Shame putting them in is same as rappers and other prior stupidity, while not having Deep Purple and piles of others more worthy.
It’s obvious they don’t want to do it. Best thing they can do, have Gene & Paul and then Ace & Peter on two separate video screens thanking everyone and the HOF for putting them into the HOF and say goodbye after. Then have some of their musical peers go out and perform a tribute to them covering their songs then end it that way. Everyone gets along, no one fights and both sides are happy!
Any scenario possible as we have seen over the history of the HOF