As I have said consistently since the announcement that Kiss will be going into the HOF, now is when much of the discussion and negotiation on what goes down starts to happen. You have what Ace and Peter want, what Gene & Paul want, and what the HOF itself wants to happen, and somewhere it all needs to be worked out. With the holidays behind us expect info to come out as we get closer to the date and the various parties talk. There is already some very differing information coming out now as a matter of fact. If you listen to my interview with Ace (now on my home page for all to hear), it is clear he would like the original band to be featured since they are the members actually being inducted. Speaking of that, there has been much debate since the announcement on even this topic. The HOF makes that call and they decided the founding members only. That’s what I was told by several people who actually have votes. That could also be an issue on how this goes down and something being discussed internally. My view on it personally is if it isn’t just the original band, then it should be ALL the people that have been a part of it. But everyone has consistently told me, including voters, it is only the original four actually being inducted. That does not mean however that others from the bands history won’t be there and won’t even potentially be involved as was the case with Heart and others. Ace also stated in the interview with me the HOF wanted the band in makeup which he was open to. Both Peter and Ace said they spoke with Gene and Paul and vibes were good before the holidays. Ace expressed concern in my interview about how the current band would be represented vs him and Peter who are actually being honored. Ace’s concern is also likely fueled by a VH1 Rock Honors event in 2006 where he was in the strange position of not being allowed to play with Kiss, while Tommy did dressed as him. Ace played with the tribute band that night to Kiss.
Last night Paul Stanley’s twitter account showed a glimpse into the very different views about what will and won’t go down and the issues that still need to be worked through. You can check the feed for yourself @paulstanleylive When asked last night if the original band would play together at the HOF his response is “seems unlikely”. When asked if he thinks working with Ace & Peter would be better now that both are sober he responded “No”. When asked if he would wear makeup with Ace & Peter he responded “No way”.
This is clearly a shift in what fans thought and were hoping for and what Ace and Peter mentioned. It also points to the various egos, posturing and control issues that could turn something the fans have wanted for 15 years into a train wreck! Paul’s answers do not surprise me at all. For Gene and Paul this puts them in a tough spot having to reconnect with members they’d prefer not to deal with no doubt, and who they have spent the last 10 years trying to recreate in the current band. Quite frankly coming out with the original band once again in makeup opens up a huge can of worms with fans that they have been trying to keep a lid on for a decade. It does not work with what they are currently trying to sell so well. And make no mistake, like it or not, they know seeing the original four in makeup again would be HUGE for fans and put a dent in what they have been selling to fans; that it doesn’t matter so much who’s behind the makeup. So you can already see how some of this is playing out. Gene & Paul on one side trying to protect the current Kiss and not go down reunion road again, and Ace & Peter wanting to be sure their night being inducted pays tribute to them, and not other versions of the band not being inducted. Nobody wearing makeup would take away some of the confusion as to who is who, but as per Ace the HOF really wanted the band in costume.
I understand Gene & Paul wanting to protect their current business model. Trust me, they know and have seen first hand the avalanche a reunion, even for a few hours, with Ace & Peter will cause (MTV Unplugged). It would be nice to think for one night the fans could celebrate the original bands induction with all of them working together for a few hours. Then bring up everyone from KISStory at the end for a jam or something. But I suspect this has many twists and turns still to come and Paul’s tweets last night give just a little peak into how this could unfortunately get very messy. If you are planning on buying tickets to this to see a Kiss reunion even for a couple songs as many have told me, I would seriously hold off. Looks like much still to be decided and as per Paul’s verified Twitter account it doesn’t sound promising at the moment. Listen to the interview with Ace I did a couple weeks ago, then read Paul’s tweets last night. This isn’t me stirring the pot or with any inside information. Just doesn’t take a genius to see there are some very different opinions as to how this should go down already. We shall see…I’m sure much more as we go.
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So what happened to Gene’s comments that he would be open to it because KISS was started with Ace & Peter. Yes kiss is trying to create a brand new KISS, but that doesn’t mean they should ignore their past as if it never happened. Ya know there would be no KISS without Ace & Peter. Ace created the signature 70’s KISS sound. It was Vinny Vincent who created the 80’s KISS sound while Bruce Kulick refined it and made it his own sound. Paul is a real jerk if he doesn’t want to do it for a couple hours. I think the fans will understand that its only a 1 time deal and not a permanant reunion. I for one will not expect a full reunion. The original KISS is done. I don’t think it will ever happen again. I accept that and still listen to the band as it is now. however, I do not agree with Eric & Tommy doing the Ace & Peter makeup. That is just disrespectful. They need their own makeup just like Eric Carr and Vinny Vincet did. I for one cannot nor will I accept them for doing that.
JUST NOT RIGHT, THIS SHOULD BE ABOUT ACE,PETER ,PAUL,GENE. ..I AM AT A CROSS ROAD WITH THESE GUYS AND I’VE BEEN A FAN SINCE 77 BUT I AM DISGUSTED BY THEIR BEHAVIOR TOWARDS ACE AND PETER..I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS CURRENT LINEUP AND DON’T LIKE THE WAY GENE AND PAUL TRY TO DOWNPLAY EVERYTHING WITH ORIGINAL LINEUP..A VERY UPSET FAN HERE
I think Paul is just messing with everyone.
Seriously doubt that and makes no sense
He gets to stand back and watch while KISS fans go nuts – just like they are doing here. He knows people are hanging on his every tweet. Could just be a power trip or a twisted sense of humor. “Watch what happens when I tweet this…” He probably enjoys it in some twisted way.
This is so simple . I have been a kiss fan from the early 80’s . I have to say threw the years paul & gene always talked about how everything is for the fans and the fans are what keeps up going and we have the best fans . Hey what about the FUCKING KISS ARMY !! You guys need to put your heads out of your asses and just do what is best for the fans. Stop worrying about your personal issues with each other get over it already and go into the hall of fame the way you should as the band you started. Ace Peter Paul & Gene in make-up. This is only gonna happen once in a lifetime make it right. I can’t believe there not even seeing what is important here rather urge about stupid shit. Do it for the fans and your kiss legacy . It is only for a few hours and you go your separate ways .
Too bad hof said only original members. I think a super kiss might be more appropriate with all the members in their respective makeups or lack there of and an empty drum set for Eric Carr. Everyone jams rock and roll all night and says thank you. Problem solved.