12/17: KISS FINALLY IN THE R&R HALL!

Well it has finally happened and Kiss is in the R&R Hall Of Fame. In recent years we have seen Alice Cooper, Rush, Heart finally go in. Hell if this keeps up I may not have much more to scream about. Not to worry though, still TONS of bands snubbed, including the inexplicable continued snubbing of Deep Purple, which sadly continued for this year. But for 15 years Kiss was ignored, and finally they couldn’t ignore them anymore. Make no mistake, there are many in the Hall voting panel miserable this is happening. But it HAD to happen. Not for the right reasons of music, influence, ground breaking performance etc, but for the economics. The Hall needs fans of major bands finally in Cleveland selling tickets to that museum. So the elitists who tried to keep Kiss out all these years had to fold because they need bands like Kiss and Rush because they need the fan interest those bands bring! The president of the Hall was on my radio show a couple years ago and agreed that is a concern. Laura Nyro isn’t moving tickets in Cleveland!

 

I’ve heard many people say “I hope Gene and Paul let Ace and Peter come”. That is not the way this works. They don’t control this, the Hall does. The Hall is inducting the original four members only. So they will all be invited and able to speak that night. Where the questions come in is who plays? Of course the hope for any Kiss fan is the original band does at least a song or two. Ace and Peter patched up their own issues at my radio party just a couple months ago and also played together. So nobody can say they are incapable of a couple songs as the original four. The question is will Gene and Paul agree to play with the original band? They have spent more than the last 10 years pushing the current band and slinging barbs at times at Ace and Peter. Can they bury these issues and make it work at least for a night? The problem is the enormity of the four of them on stage together will once again completely undo all the work they have done selling the current version of the band to some degree. Make no mistake, I was at the MTV unplugged, when these guys appear together it will be an avalanche from the fans in terms of reaction. So the question comes into play in the performance area. Do they all play together? Do Gene and Paul try and crowbar in the current band to play? Do Ace and Peter not play if that’s the case? Do they wear makeup? In the past many scenarios have played out with the performance portion. From more than one lineup playing, to no performance by the band at all. So anything can happen in this area and this is where the negotiation comes in and things can get dicey. They could also opt to not play and have a tribute of some sorts perform. But the original four guys will be there and be inducted. The playing is all still TBD. Back in 2006 at a VH1 show I worked on Gene and Paul refused to let Ace and Peter play with them at Rock Honors. It resulted in Peter not attending and Ace in a strange scenario playing with the tribute to Kiss while Tommy performed with Kiss dressed as Ace! But this is the Hall and much bigger and HAS to be done right and respectfully for all four members and most importantly US the FANS! So let’s see what ends up unfolding as the discussions will begin between the various camps very soon.

 

Another thing, the decision to only include the original 4. I understand the decision. I loved Eric Carr, and I am fully aware of the major contribution in KISStory by many key members. But if you don’t cut it at the original guys only then you have to put everyone that was ever in the band in. So in my view it’s the originals (which it is) or everyone (which it is not). If you extend beyond the original 4 how can you then not also include Eric Singer, who has been in the band a long time, or Bruce Kulick, or even Vinnie who had a huge role in writing key comeback albums? So it’s either all of them or just the founding members, and the Hall is only inducting Ace, Peter, Gene & Paul. Hopefully there will at least be a verbal acknowledgement of what the other guys have contributed. To me they should all four accept together, do a couple songs with the original four (after all, this honor is all about them) and then maybe jam a song with some of the Kiss super fans from other bands. I am NOT lobbying for any reunion full time here. As a matter of fact I think this would be a good time for Kiss to finally retire. Go in the Hall with the guys that started it, and everyone go on to solo stuff and other things. To me it would be a great way to end and put a button on a remarkable career ending in the Hall with the same four that started it. But that’s just my take. I’m sure Gene sees way too many business deals still left to keep dragging some version of Kiss through the mill. But Gene and Paul own the entity known as Kiss, kept it alive, and are within their right to do what they want regardless if I like it or not. I just think it would be a great way to go out. Like a football player winning the Super Bowl and then retiring.

 

So much more to come on this, but at least, FINALLY, Kiss is in! I’ve had many tweets and emails from fans thanking me for being so vocal about this for so many years on radio and TV. Not saying for a minute I played a role in Kiss, Rush or Alice going in, but I appreciate those that have sent those notes of thanks for bringing awareness to this insane injustice. I assure you many in the mainstream woke up today saying “Kiss, you mean they weren’t in that already?” Kiss was my gateway band into rock music. Regardless of my feelings about what they have done in recent years I have and always will be a Kiss fan. I think being a fan is about debating and liking different eras more than others and being able to voice those opinions. I was the guy made fun of in high school by so many for liking Kiss. I was in high school from ’79-’82, trust me, NO band was more uncool than Kiss then! Many fellow fans know of that struggle haha! So no matter what era of Kiss you were into let’s all celebrate this great overdue moment! I spoke to Ace last night and also Peter’s wife Gigi (Peter was sleeping when the news broke) and Peter himself just a couple minutes ago. Obviously all are excited and still learning how this will all go down. My annual KISSmas Special, which I have been doing since 1990, will take place live this Friday night from 11P-2A ET on Q104.3 NYC. My 23rd year celebrating all Kiss around Christmas and this year will be extra special no doubt. Ace will call in live to discuss the Hall. Also how fitting is this that this year the event is happening in Brooklyn open to the public? Especially for Peter! All respect to the other honorees but this thing is going to be all about Kiss as it should be, and I suspect the fans will let certain parties know how they feel about waiting 15 years that night. Congratulations to Ace, Peter, Gene & Paul, and to the fellow Kiss fans out there our day has finally come, so congrats to you as well. See you on the radio Friday night to celebrate KISSmas and see you in Brooklyn in April!

This just in, Rolling Stone story with Gene. They mention me and TMS. Gene clearly caught off guard because it is a ridiculous excuse for not doing TMS!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/gene-simmons-open-to-rock-hall-of-fame-kiss-reunion-with-ace-and-peter-20131217

Comments

  1. Ok look, I’ve been a die hard kiss fan since the beginning… And still am today I love the original line up- what kiss fan doesn’t ? The band as it is today sounds so much crisper n tighter! You have to remember it was Tommy who had to re-teach Ace how to play his own solos! I love Ace n Peter but they burned their own bridges!!! Kiss rulz

  2. Timmy Seitzinger says:

    I am so happy about the induction of Kiss in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame! In my opinion Kiss influenced Rock n Roll as much as any other band in Rock n Roll history. I know that we would not have enjoyed the Metal Era without Kiss’s influence.

  3. patrick doron says:

    Hey Eddie’ does that mean that David Grohl does not get in with Nirvana,since he is the fifth drummer they had?

  4. Will they or won’t they let Ace And Peter play..it’s all about selling tickets so it will be anyone’s guess as it gets closer..that’s my spin anyways ….

  5. I would suggest having Geddy Lee induct them. Geddy was interviewed for the Nothin’ to Lose book, there is history between the two bands, and they seem to have remained friendly. Having somebody from Rush there would guarantee Rush fans would watch, and as you may recall quite a few came last year. ;-)

  6. Rolling Stone now has a great interview with Ace up. I just googled “Ace Frehley” to see if a statement from him was out yet. It even asks him about the interview with Gene a few hours ago.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kiss-ace-frehley-on-hall-of-fame-i-dont-foresee-any-bad-blood-20131217

  7. The Deacon says:

    Early on in the the night,like after one act performs, I am hoping the original 4 jam a couple of songs in Street Clothes, maybe invite guys like Slash to jump in, you could also include Bruce at that point. But then, to close out the night, after other peformances, get the current line up to do a full Kiss Production of a small setlist

  8. im glad the original 4 should get it…they started the group.. I love the old kiss now its just a business that makes no good music. gene and paul and gotten a big ego over the years.

  9. Definitely glad they’re finally getting in. I’m with Eddie that this would make a good time for them to retire, but I highly doubt that’s in the cards. It’s been very difficult for me to hear Paul sing live over the past few years, and I’m sure it must tug on him emotionally to not be physically able to deliver in the way he once did. Who performs, who doesn’t perform at the hall – this just doesn’t phase me one way or the other because it’s beyond our control. They got in – yay.

  10. What I find mind boggling about Kiss and other bands’ success is that from 1973-77 (Kiss-Love Gun), which Alive I and Alive II represent very well, Kiss put out Kiss, Hotter Than Hell, Dressed To Kill, Alive I, Destroyer, Rock and Roll Over, Love Gun, and Alive II, the quality of which in my mind got them their well deserved seat in the Hall. Like other bands of their time (the Eagles come to mind though they did the country rock, and later harder rock sound when Joe Walsh joined), I’m impressed by the amount of classic stuff they put out in their prime. Those were full albums worth of great songs. They did continue to record and put out quality material (Dynasty has its moments, I can deal with the Elder, Creatures very good, with help from Vinnie, Bryan Adams, etc…, Revenge, and even Psycho Circus) since that point, but the original 4 got them there, and I as a fan will be happy to see them play together even if it’s just for one last time. I’m grateful I was a fan when they were putting those earliest albums out back in the day and can’t wait to see them get inducted!

  11. KISS getting in is no redemption for the so called “Rock and Roll” Hall of Fame which lost all credibility years ago, but at least now Gene gets to find another marketing outlet.

    But it was always more about the marketing than the music with KISS anyway.

  12. Vance W Cheek Jr says:

    As for the induction (1) Cher (2) Lenny or (3) Alice. As for the Band’s behavior, check their wallets. If Perer and Ace are as broke as I read they’ll be good soldiers and even sign up for a REAL farewell tour. Two dozen venues for mega-shows which include the Fab 4, the current line-up, and Bruce Kulick for an 80’s / Eric Carr tribute (Forever, Tears are Falling, Lick It Up, Everytime I Look at You, Heaven’s on Fire, et cetera). Make up on, intermission, makeup off. Their “Last show” in the Garden! Have a sober Kramer produce the last concert like an album. In Tennessee, you’d have to use Bristol Motor Speedway to pack 170,000 one of the few Southeast Region Performances. Peter can get in shape for 24 shows especially if he’s not being asked to be the Bell-Cow. Eric Singer can carry over half of it. This would also be time to finally do right by Bruce Kulick who got hosed in ’96 and was fired acrimoniously. He deserves the love of a proper thank you send-off. That’s my bit

  13. Jason Pinkney says:

    It’s about time. Long long long overdue honor. Weather you like ! Love, or hate KISS for their music, attitude, the replacing members with guys playing their part, or the fact that they market themselves so much, you can’t deny that they belong in the Rock hall of fame. They have set the standard for big live shows and continue to do so 40 years later. And really is there any bigger champion and lover of Rock’N’Roll than Paul Stanley? That being said, I think it’s fair that the original 4 go in and that’s all. Eric Singer has been with them for a very long time but if that’s the case, Bruce Kulick was there for 10 years also. And while Vinnie Vincent was in the band as a player for a brief time he was connected with them for ten years, and a Eric Carr was there for 9. So you’d leaved out Mark St.John and that’s not fair to any if them.
    I’d like to see the 4 play then bring out Vinnie, Bruce, Eric , and Tommy come out for the jam with the 4. Yes I know it’s a take off of unplugged but you can’t deny that would be nothing short of memorable.

  14. I liked the article but I disagree with the “its only the 4 original member or the whole gang” It just doesnt have to be like that, who says so? I think the inductees should be the fab four + Eric Carr, long live the Fox !

  15. To bad Dime isn’t around to see this… He was A Huge Kiss fan……

  16. If Gene would shut up for once, not run his gums about how much money he has and crap talking, that would leave more time for all 4 each to sing a song and represent the original KISS. SHock Me, Hard Luck Woman, Dr Love, and Strutter. Or something like that. But Gene will make this about him and ruin the night, leaving the 4 to play rock n roll all night with Springsteen, LL Cool J, and Hall and Oates. Blech pitooey!!!!!!!

  17. Cool thing is, Ace could be inducted twice!!
    Solo/Frehley’s Comet…
    In my opinion he was thee guitar god in kiss
    Vinnie was great…solo Paul & Gene would not let him play to his full potential in kiss.
    Congrats guys!
    One thing though..can gene & Paul mabee not bitch so much about their anti drug & alchol beliefs?
    Motleys book would have sucked without said demons

    • Clearly Kramer, the drug/alcohol thing hits a nerve with you cuz you think Ace’s solo stuff is HOF worthy and can’t learn to spell words correctly. Have another toke of the pipe and try again.

  18. I for one think all members of Kiss should be inducted. They aren’t one of those bands who has 5 pages of previous members, they just have a handful, and each one played a significant role in the band. I’m pleasantly surprised to hear Gene mentioning all of them, I predict they will all be mentioned in the ceremony.

    As for Deep Purple, my theory is that there is no way the Hall would induct two hard rock bands the same year, and the demand for Kiss was higher, therefore, Purple will be the next hard rock band inducted along with the Osmonds and LL Cool J.

  19. I am okay with Kiss going in but I still think that they are many many more that should before them (ie: Deep Purple, etc…) which in essence is probably what Eddie has been saying. But at least they are in – right? I did have a lady in class tonight that she was so thrilled to be able to visit the RnR Hall of Fame….thinking it was going to be a big deal. She said she left there very disappointed describing it as ‘cheesy’. That is not to say if in the area, I would not visit.

  20. Congrats to KISS. Geez, if there is fuss over 2 members, what’s going to happen when DP gets in?? Do they invite everyone? How does the Hall decide who can show up? Will Satriani get the invite too??

  21. I really hope Ace and Peter just do their induction speeches and leave it at that. I wouldn’t give Gene and Paul the satisfaction of getting on stage with them.

  22. So besides the obvious Deep Purple snub…who is on you future RRHOF list Eddie? Looks like you are steering the ship! Congrats to KISS…do one song with all originals then bring the whole damn family on! That would rule! Eddie should do the induction! Gene…do Eddie’s show or I’m ebay’ing my Kiss casket and not going on the Kiss Kruise 4! Kiss fans unite and help Ed get his (and our) idols on That Metal Show. Gene should respect Eddie for his years of loyalty and promotion. Peace and love peace and love Gene!

  23. “My annual KISSmas Special, which I have been doing since 1990, will take place live this Friday night from 11P-2A ET on Q104.3 NYC.”

    Just missed this. The KISSmas Special will be live!!!

  24. So besides the obvious Deep Purple snub…who is on your future RRHOF list Eddie? Looks like you are steering the ship! Congrats to KISS…do one song with all originals then bring the whole damn family on! That would rule! Eddie should do the induction! Gene…do Eddie’s show or I’m ebay’ing my Kiss casket and not going on the Kiss Kruise 4! Kiss fans unite and help Ed get his (and our) idols on That Metal Show. Gene should respect Eddie for his years of loyalty and promotion. Peace and love Gene peace and love! You rule Eddie Trunk!

  25. I’m sincerely happy that kiss are finally in, but I actually have a question about nirvana – from what I’ve read, it looks like Kurt, Krist, and Dave are going in- and not original drummer Chad Channing. Granted, he didn’t play on nevermind or in utero, but he was an original member who played on their first album bleach which has gone platinum. it’s not quite a mustaine situation, because he did play on the first album – is there a precedent for this? I’ve never heard of an original guy not getting in.

  26. It is about damn time they made it. The hall of shame still sucks but i guess they couldn’t stop the fans voice. KISS, to me, has always been Ace, Gene, Peter and Paul…the originals. The only two that have even a case to argue are Eric Carr and Bruce Kulick. But if you let them in, then you must let all the other ex and current members of KISS in. Keep it simple and keep it original. I hope they can put aside any differences for one night for the fans and stand on stage together and perform one more time together as originals. Let Peter and Ace perform in “their” makeup and if Eric and Tommy perform with them, then they do it without the makeup. To me, that would be a respect thing! How about every living member and former member of KISS get on stage for one massive jam? I hope it doesn’t turn into a Van Halen type thing where the whole induction is ruined and de-valued because of a few ego’s!

  27. Kiss was my life growing up. I was THAT guy in high school too, and I still had 3 Kiss posters up in my dorm room at Michigan in 1988 as a freshman (that was not the norm at South Quad). I could go on and on as many of us can. I have not been a fan of what passes for Kiss now for a decade and I literally haven’t heard the last two albums. It makes me sad but as you Eddie have mentioned yourself I believe, having two other guys wear Ace and Peter’s makeup was the end for me. The irony is that I like Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer! I don’t blame them so much, but Gene and Paul are so full of crap that I’m not sure I can come back. They are the worst politicians always spinning the newest load of crap and contradicting themselves each time they open their mouths about what they do for their fans. I am conflicted about them getting into the hall. Hard to be happy for them after being so disgusted for so long now… This is tough – not sure what to do. Most people would read this and think it’s ridiculous for me to be this emotionally invested in something like this, but I know there are plenty who understand. Help!

    • For me, Ace and Peter were replaced long ago. I did not like the make up issue either, but I am over it.
      Monster and Sonic Boom are both pretty good, give them a listen……I dont understand why anybody would expect them not to push the current lineup. Nobody would ever say, only listen to our old stuff, it is better. Of course Gene and Paul do go overboard with selling it .

      • This is my own personal opinion on it – I understand personalities don’t work out and people don’t pull their weight in a band. I’m also in a band and unfortunately we had to replace a bass player, but I don’t go out of my way to disrespect the guy we replaced. I remember when Eric Carr’s fox makeup was unveiled and how cool I thought that was! He was brought into the band and allowed to have his own persona – a true full member of the band in appearance and maybe even creatively to a degree over time if not financially. Same with Vinnie. I don’t understand when the makeup went back on without Ace or Peter why Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer weren’t allowed to have a persona that fit them. That would be so cool and would continue the tradition of the band during the makeup era. I would have embraced that. All the fans I know personally (obviously I can’t speak for all fans) have always agreed with me that those of us who have been there from the beginning would prefer it that way. If you were a fan of all four original guys and their personas you would feel that those personas were theirs – no way could some other guy “play” the demon like Gene. Kiss has always been about selling out as much as possible with all the merchandise etc. – as a kid in the 70’s it was part of their charm for me even though I’m aware that the original intent of Kiss was not to be a circus for the kids. I’m fine with all of that. The Kiss caskets, dolls, whatever. But there seems something really fake about putting the new guys in the old makeup, reducing it to playing some role that anyone could do. Not only do the real fans deserve better than that but Eric and Tommy have EARNED better than that – especially Eric – no disrespect to Tommy but Eric made huge contributions to a couple of great Kiss studio albums and tours before the reunion – just listen to his work on the track “Hate” alone. Hardcore fans obviously know those guys aren’t Ace & Peter but I think it’s the casual fans who don’t know any better that this is meant for – not the true fans which is what I think Gene and Paul either don’t get (doubtful) or don’t care about (more likely). It will look more like the original product for the masses who can’t tell the difference or don’t care enough about the difference to be upset about it. As if what Ace and Peter contributed wasn’t unique. Of course it was!!! I’m equally offended at Black Sabbath cropping Bill Ward out of old pictures on their website like he never existed. Maybe Kiss doesn’t answer to me, or maybe they do…… as I said, I never bought “Sonic Boom” or “Monster” and have never heard them. Not looking to fight with anyone – I can’t force others to feel a certain way about this but I still have my vote, my voice and my wallet. I’ll see how I feel when I watch the induction.

  28. Markus Kohn says:

    Eddie…can you please say CHEAP TRICK !

  29. It sucks the hall is only allowing the original 4 to go in … I would at least bring in Eric Carr an vinnie Vincent cause they brought kiss back to spotlight with creatures and lick it up they played a huge part of kiss and they sometimes are over looked

  30. I think having Kiss on the RRHoF is practically yr early Xmas present, Eddie.

  31. Your Right . Origional line up stated it was the best line up, all line ups deserve to be in, there should be a special dedication to Eric Carr. I have Respect For Peter Criss & Eric Singer But There Was Something Special About Eric Carr He did not let Fame Get Into His Head . I think he was the greatest drummer of all time and that is just my opinion but check out his drum solo from the Hot in the Shade Tour . but kudos to Kiss You deserve it. I think all the different line ups were different but just as important as the original and all deserve to get in, even Vinnie Vincent. Also They Should Thank, Bob Kulic, Anton Fig, and the drum teck. who filled in for Peter a Few Times May have been for 1 night but in my book they were also in kiss but like I said before that’s just my opinion

  32. I do not see another reunion tour happening, unless paul get throat surgery I saw them live this summer they put on a great show but voacaly he was struggling kudos to him for trying I just do not think his vocal cords can handle another tour. to paul get surgery a lot of us fans want another 10 to 20 years of seeing you live I know most likely even surgery is too much for 10 to 20 years but one can hope.

  33. I say congratulations to KISS and all their members , I have liked the band for their music. From the beginning to the present. They continue to do what they always wanted to do PLAY and PROVIDE entertainment which that they have done for over 40 years ….. LONG LIVE ROCK !!!!!!

  34. Eddie how do you know original lineup only is being inducted? It hasn’t been stated anywhere that it is just the originals or just a certain period of time. the only place that ‘fact’ has come from is your mouth and I’m also interested in how you of all the people to deny or confirm that would know. You’re not a member of the hall and you’re not in KISS so how are you aware of this apparent and stupid decision.

  35. Bil McGarry says:

    I’m glad it’s still a few months out because it will take at least that long for Tommy to reteach Ace his parts.

  36. The issue that Gene and Paul can not dismiss is that no matter what they say and do, there is real chemistry when the 4 original members play. You can see and feel it, it is real. They do not have that type of chemistry with any of the other lineups, no matter how much better musicians Tommy and Eric may be. No one plays the drums like Peter and no one plays lead guitar like Ace. It is why KISS from 73 to 79 was the monster group they were. The other lineups were good bands, but they were not special like the original lineup. I think they will play the usual songs without makeup and it will be recorded for the next KISStory DVD set. I am betting there will be a lot of fake bravado to sell as many tickets to this as possible. I just want a cool civil ceremony and one last performance by the original lineup.

  37. How about Alice Cooper doing the induction!

  38. Peter and Ace were 1/2 of the original band and deserve to be a part of this. I’ve read both of their books and have just as much respect for them as I do Gene and Paul. A HOF award without their due credit is completely unfair. Metal or not, Peter wrote and sang “Beth” and was the backbeat of the group. Ace helped design the KISS logo, created the smoke bomb and rocket effects for his Les Paul, and did “Shock Me”. Both have signature songs, both had iconic makeup, both have their own groups of fans (me included).

    When I watch the early films from their DVD box sets, you could see FOUR guys jamming together like they meant it – it wasn’t two guys calling themselves a band and having two interchangeable “hired guns” tagging along. There was a very raw yet cohesive nature to their performances that wasn’t present with the later incarnations of the group. This, to me at least, was Kiss at it’s finest.

    I personally believe Eric Carr, Eric Singer, Mark St John, Bruce Kulick, Tommy Thayer, and Vinnie Vincent all at least deserve an honorable mention though. Kiss would have never existed without them. Gene can’t deny that either – it helped make him rich beyond all imagination.

    I agree 100%, Eddie – do the HOF then hang it up. It has to end some time. Let the band end with some dignity.

  39. Scott Bennett says:

    Kind of dont care anymore aftet reading the Rolling Stone article. Someone has lost all respect for. His fans. Have to laugh that Rush made it in before Kiss. Sence they were there opening act. Rush has more class.

    • Speaking of class, maybe you should attend a few and learn how to spell and use punctuation correctly. Hard to take a point seriously when the grammar is written like a 5 year old.

  40. Will Gene get paid to appear at the RRHOF?

  41. Dave Balzano says:

    Better late than never! There’s no doubt that their output with the original lineup is what got them there (think of the Stones without their output from 1964-71 for instance), but they carried on and still put out plenty of worthy individual songs and even albums thereafter even if many of their post prime period (I’d say 1973-79) albums were spotty. I’m also with Eddie as far as them acknowledging the efforts of others as for instance, without Vinnie Vincent’s contributions, successes in the 1980’s such as Creatures and some songs off Revenge wouldn’t have kept them vital. Of course, Eric Carr, Bruce Kulick, Mark St. John to a lesser degree, and even Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer (though they at least ought to find their own makeup characters!) deserve some mention.

    Glad that the fans had their say, and glad that Gene acquiesced to playing with Ace and Peter at the induction, at least in writing. I’m with Eddie as far as putting it to rest at this point as far as future work goes as there’s probably too much venom on both sides (Gene & Paul versus Ace & Peter) for it to last or amount to much creatively. As a fan, I was disappointed when I found out how little involvement Ace and Peter had in Psycho Circus, their only studio album after reuniting in ’96, and I can’t imagine Paul and Gene allowing them any more latitude these days if they were to get to that point.

    Still, for me, as a long-term fan, it will be enough for them to have their due and get inducted and perform together again, if only for one more time. Whether it’s with the makeup or not is immaterial to me as I actually enjoyed watching them play the Unplugged show without makeup. We’ll see what develops, and I do look forward to Eddie’s Kissmas show this Friday, and will be listening in for that call from Ace. Rock on Kiss!

  42. Pete Salvato says:

    Eddie, maybe the Rock Hall is listening to your show finally. Yes Deep Purple etc. should be in. Rush finally got in and now KISS. I am a fan of all three band. Ace & Peter need to be there. I also hope that Gene & Paul will appear on TMS. Looking forward to another great season of TMS.

  43. Why can’t everyone just be happy that they are finally getting inducted and just let it play out the way it will play out? Whether it’s just the original 4 or whatever really doesn’t matter, they are finally entering the Hall and it’s the band name that will be in there for eternity. I became a fan of this band back in early 1977 and have been beyond a die hard fan of every incarnation of them since then. I had always hoped the Reunion Tour back in ’96 would NEVER happen cuz I was, and still am, more into the music than the band’s image. I could care less how long someone’s hair is or what makeup they’re wearing, it’s about the music! And I take great offense to the ridiculous insinuations that Eddie makes about how everyone has been “deceived” by the current lineup, or that we simply “buy into” everything they’re selling. Not one person I have been around at the 10 concerts I have attended since the original 4 broke up, has thought that the Spaceman or Catman were Ace or Peter, especially those of us who have gone backstage and met the band, most of us being fans from the 70’s as well. Every one of those shows is exactly what it’s always been at a KISS show: a tightly knit community, an Army if you will. You call yourself a man of the fans and yet you take those very people you speak of, who are also fans of yours, and make them out to be idiots, can’t deny you don’t. Maybe that’s due to 2 things: 1) You’ve become a member of the rock media and ultimately that means you’re what all musicians dread, a critic! And 2) You’ve no concept of what it takes to play in a band, try to record music and play out with those same people night after night. Egos and personalities clash all the time and it gets amplified with the addition of drugs & alcohol. I’ve been in more than one band with the same guitar player who claimed to be clean and sober and every time it was the same b.s., a lie. Does that mean I should stop my band because some people are going to be unhappy that the original guitar player isn’t there anymore? No it doesn’t, it means I can carry on if I see fit, regardless of if I paint my face or not. I can only imagine how difficult it has to be for guys in a band of KISS’ magnitude to deal with members like that. I am extremely happy to still have my favorite band, no matter who’s in it, still making great albums and still touring and still putting on the most kick ass concerts on the planet. Having an active version of KISS is better than not having them at all, and so, when they finally do get their Induction on 4/10/14, regardless of which members take part, I will be celebrating the entire history of a band I’ve loved for 36 years and counting.

    • Dude…you are only the second person beside myself to nail it regarding Eddie Trunk…Eddie is someone that I would like to have respect for because he does wave the hard rock/ metal flag, but his comments on Kiss and their fans as they are today is ridiculous. Exactly as you say, like we are morons that are “buying” into what Gene says…frankly, Gene has been an ass quite often, but I am into the MUSIC…image is great but I would like them without makeup now better, so I actually like the concerts a little less but still look forward to any new release from Kiss or any ex member not named Peter. (Bruce Kulick’s album out a year ago was killer)…I have been in bands and still am a recording artist today…collaboration is tough sometimes and just because people have musical similarities, doesn’t mean their personalities always match…success brings business decisions, money, fame, etc and everyone handles it differently..Ace and Peter not so good, and some would say Gene too. Regardless, we should all be celebrating that the highest honor Kiss could get is recognition from their critics…they finally are getting it.

      • Would you be okay if the band you were in replaced you with someone that impersonated you?

        • Probably not Eddie…but Kiss can’t win because of the makeup…they are unique to that , I agree with Paul when he said more new characters would be ridiculous and I also agree that Tommy and Eric are in Ace and Peter makeup, not the Spaceman and Catman. My point is that I still love the music, including Monster and Sonic Boom…stop pushing your opinion on Kiss today like if WE don’t agree with you we are sheep drinking the Kiss Koolaid… We’re not, or at least not all of us…If Paul and Gene hadn’t kept Kiss going (even with many bad decisions) they wouldn’t be goIng in the HOF today. Ace has played shows with Eric in Peters makeup and Christ, Peter did an album with Tommy in Ace makeup (Symphony). They were too far into the Kiss comeback to quit, and when things went sour with Ace and Peter, they did what they had to…Personally I would rather they take the makeup off, and it isn’t ideal to have Eric and Tommy wearing it, but I would rather have this than nothing. Lastly, yes you manage bands, etc, but to actually be in a band, writing music, having conflicting personalities just makes things that much harder and because of their image, Kiss has the hardest time replacing any member. I love the debate Eddie, and I’m on your site so I’m not here just to bash…I am an Eddie Trunk fan but your opinions on Kiss are sometimes insulting in the way you portray the fans who don’t agree with you…It is possible to still like Kiss without agreeing with everything they do…

          • I still like Kiss and sure don’t agree with everything they do! Why else would I do an entire radio show dedicated to them tonight for the 23rd straight year?

      • Thank you George. As I said in my original comment, Eddie knows a lot about the press/critic side of music, he has no clue what it takes to be in a band, play shows, record cd’s, etc. You’d have to be IN that situation, as you and I have been, at a much lower scale, to understand the dynamic. It’s easy to sit on your high horse and spew out critical comments when you “talk” for a living. Try being a part of the musical creative process involving other people and see how easy it is.

    • Well put, Chris.

      • If I wasn’t pulling my weight or wasn’t giving 100% to the fans who deserve it, then yes I would be, I’d deserve to be replaced. You gotta learn the definition of what it means to impersonate. To impersonate someone is to act just like them, mannerisms, talk, everything. So, if both were impersonating them, then Tommy would be stumbling all over the stage, calling everyone Curly and have a drink in his hand at every interview, and Eric would be constantly yelling about stuff, forgetting the words to the songs he sings and never know what city he’s in, which both of these men are clearly not doing. I think you’re loyalty lies with Ace & Peter because they will do whatever you ask of them, which is fine, it’s their only means of exposure at this point. But you’re never going to get any respect back from Paul & Gene if you continuously piss all over everything they do. Say what you want about how you’ve been a fan forever and you disagree once and they have hurt feelings. If I had to listen to a so-called fan constantly yammer on about the things I did in a negative manner, I’d ignore you too. Show some class and just keep your mouth shut about them, it’s the only way you may get some credibility back. And thanks Brian B, I speak the truth and I can do it eloquently.

        • Didn’t know objectivity was not allowed in Kiss world. I keep forgetting in Kiss super fan world you MUST love and support EVERYTHING without conditions. How DARE you question or dislike one thing . It is forbidden! Oh and my loyalty is to Ace and Peter which is why my book is dedicated to Eric Carr, I played and supported EVERY version of Kiss, and tomorrow for the 23 year will do a special of 3 hours of nothing but their music from ALL ERAS of the band. Stunning how little you truly know about me and my history, but believe what you want. Sorry I don’t subscribe and pretend to like every single thing every band does. Oh and Ace and Peter have been sober 7 & 10 years, but that doesn’t work with the plan and agenda these days I guess. God forbid they change and you give credit for that. Just keep hammering on the past.

          • Objectivity in KISS world is keeping an open mind when they have 2 members come into the fold and put on the iconic makeup of the characters, not people, characters. It takes no objective thought to just hate it because it’s not the original 2 guys who wore the makeup and not even give it a chance. Say what you will, the characters are Starchild, Demon, Catman & Spaceman, not Paul Starchild, Gene Demon, Peter Catman & Spaceman Ace. How’s it any different than having 6-7 guys play Batman in a movie franchise? It’s not. And have I agreed with everything they’ve ever done, no I haven’t, but am I going to constantly complain about it, no I’m not. Presentation of a grievance, big or small, is everything. I’ve had a long conversation with Paul at a dinner I went to for his art gallery tour, why, cuz he’s a great artist and I was invited by him, and I expressed a few things, in a polite manner I might add, that I didn’t think were the best of decisions within the history of the band, and he respectfully took that in and responded to me in a polite manner as well, with a clear and concise reason as to why it was done. I’ve met him 3 times since then, he remembers me every time and is always pleasant & respectful towards me. I’m 36 years into liking this band, they’ve been one of a very few constants in my life, and if you can’t understand the passion that goes along with that and why I find the way you react to the current band, and fans of it, ridiculous, then you my friend, have no clue what it really means to be a fan of anything. We clearly differ on our definition of what the word “fan” means. Enjoy your radio show, and say hi to your buddy Ace for me, I truly hope he is healthy and sober. I don’t wish bad things on people, nor do I feel the need to be negative and trample down on what others wanna do in life, that’s something a critic does. I sincerely wish you and yours a very Happy Holiday season, while I disagree with the way you conduct yourself in regards to this band, ultimately, I still have respect for you, it’s how I live my life.

          • Chris, enjoy and believe what you want from who you want. I have a HUGE issue when people refer to the personas of Ace and Peter as merely “characters”. They were “characters” THEY created, extensions of them! So judging by your logic you will be fine with a new Starchild and Demon when they replace themselves? You would be cool with AC/DC putting someone else in the schoolboy “character” if Angus wasn’t up for it? Great that Paul was so cool to you. I know he can be at times. I also know that at his gallery shows he would not sign or acknowledge for fans at the one I went to unless they purchased a very expensive painting. Either you paid some bucks or caught him on a really great day! And by the way, I get why he had those rules, just sayin though.. Enjoy the band the way you see it, respect all opinions, but respectfully disagree when Ace & Peter are reduced to just characters. Dimebag had a tattoo of ACE FREHLEY on his chest, not the “spaceman generic character”.

  44. My soapbox moment:

    With all respect to the ongoing efforts by the later versions of the band, to keep themselves alive, my love has been and always shall be, the original band. The original spirit of the band I love, died in the 70’s… 1979/80.

    The band circa 1977/78, jumped the shark, with the comic, movies and fighting and various members wanting to quit and egos going on beyond the scenes. The version of Kiss the band, died for me in 1975/76.

    Yes, the band continued including musically, probably better thru the decades. However, in my opinion, the true version of Kiss that destroyed all competition and the public with a chemistry that the special bands have and the line up change bands (insert kiss and many bands here) do not.
    That original line up KILLED it when they played live. I’ve watched music history unfold and seen music bands of all forms come and go, some amazing and some not. Even after all that I have seen, can watch performances of the band circa’ 74-’76 play and give me goose bumps still!! It is or was, something very special indeed. It stands out even today.

    It’s a fact and has been reported on on several occasions about the differences in the personalities of the original four members. However, it’s that difference that creates that spark or special something that makes them special. Even Mr Simmons has indicated that all else no matter what happens in the other variations of the band, fails in the face of Ace, Gene, Peter and Paul in full makeup and costume and together.

    I respect all other forms of the band but the truth of the matter is simply Kiss is and will always be the original four. No matter how great other musicians play that come and go.

    For those not old enough and before current forms of a media friendly worlds..it’s hard to put things in perspective about how big they really were. It literally was a new version of Beatlemania. They came out of nowhere and flatened all of us wether you hated of loved them.

    Lastly.. It pains me to see them not move like they used to, sing like they used etc… as it is when you get old. I know Rock and Roll all night will be done obviously. I would love to see Let Me Go Rock and roll for the following reasons.. A) It’s a group effort on the singing with Gene leading, taking pressure off of Paul to only have to put out effort during Rock and Roll all night which is more suited to his stage rapping and ring leader style…thus protecting themselves from looking bad to their peers. B) This is one of the few songs where their is not a lot of vocals and showcases pure jamming and a true rock and roll vibe tune. Lots of room for improvising also in the arrangement. The last two minutes of the song alone just jams and could show off their chops which I know they truly want to do despite what they have and will say.

    Congratulations KISS and thank you for the impact on my life.

    P.S.
    I would love it Mr. Trunk, if you could use your influence in speaking with Ace and Peter that if they all do go, love the idea of the other commentor on here with them in tuxes/suits ala Dressed to Kill and makeup only. The makeup is as famous/deserving as all the bells and whistles and music and even names. They are after all, the most famous faces in all of Rock and Roll.

  45. This to me is the BEST early Kissmas present…my favorite band inducted in the Hall of Fame. I as well am proud KISS as a group of men committed to one unified goal and that is to be the best they can be at any stage of their career. I adore Gene and Paul for never giving up and never folding kiss keeping the flag flying high for 40yrs. I adore Peter and Ace for being the other two important founders of the original team. I adore Eric Carr(rest his soul) for infusing a kick in the rear to the band. I adore guitarists Vinnie,Mark,Bruce for their roles along the way. I adore Eric singer for over 18yrs of balls to the wall drums and showmanship. And Tommy I adore for countless yrs since late 80s on behind-the-scenes and later as reliable lead with chops….my point is all these team members contributed to something bigger than any one of them alone…and that is my favorite band..past,present,and future. Just happy as can be they ‘re in

  46. Paul David says:

    Eddie, love your work but I have to disagree. As a KISS fan since 1975, the non-original members were a huge part of the band history. And this from somebody who flipped-off Vinnie several times during the “Creatures” show. Maybe even moreso in the 80s when Gene was off doing movies and other stuff. The allowed KISS to progress and a band and continue to be relevant. Good lord, Eric Carr was in the band, what, 12 years and how many albums? I get the whole, “well, if you include one, then…” but, if Guns and Roses can include Matt, Gilby, and Dizzy…seriously?

    • I see your point. However only original GnR was inducted. Just because people from other lineups jam does not mean they were inducted. Gilby was not. My only point on Kiss is the only way it’s fair is the original 4 or everyone. Not 5 or 6 guys..

      • Paul David says:

        Sorry, Eddie, I thought all the guys in GnR were inducted. I thought I remembered them all at the podium. I know it’s hard to discern between all the post non-original members, but Carr just seems to stand way above the rest. Since he has past (RIP), there would be no performance issues with Peter at the event. I don’t think anyone would argue with that, especially KISS fans. Given all Eric contributed to the band, just seems hard to say “that wasn’t enough.” Can’t wait for the new season of TMS. Happy Holidays.

        • I agree 100% and loved the guy. Just not sure how they will handle. We will see. Just don’t think you can single out EC without then acknowledging everyone.

  47. Emanuel Jr. says:

    Hello, Mr. Trunk!

    I’m 34 and a huge Kiss fan from Brazil. I grew up with the non-makeup version of the band, so I think Eric Carr (at least) deserves that honor too.

    PS: I saw you at the Monsters Of Rock Festival in São Paulo. Love TMS on VH1, congrats and best wishes!

  48. Jaime Soto says:

    Eddie, love the show and I’m loving that Kiss is finally in! I have a question and want your opinions on some other bands that should be considered for the HOF. Obviously Deep Purple, but i don’t think Blackmore would show up. Journey, Bad Company, Thin Lizzy, Stevie Ray Vaughn. I know their not metal, but you know alot about music and the influence they have had. And is Joe Satriani going to be on this season of TMS? Thx!

  49. As far as whom to induct, it is a hard decision. I have seen all eras of the band in concert.
    The original lineup was spectacular! I was influenced By Ace to the extreme that I purchased one of the first Gibson USA/Ace Frehley Production Models, in late 1997. It took two jobs and a LOT of skimping/saving! Of course in 1979, here comes Van Halen!! More guitar lust.
    Anywho…Point is, They were young, ambitious…could run all over the stage, in 7 inch heels, and not get burned to a crisp because of the hotter the hell (hehheh) fire and explosions!
    Over the years I attended at least one KISS concert a year, when possible.
    Some were better then others. All had their moments. KISS is one of my favorites. Also I like Dio, Sabbath, Van Halen, U.F.O. Zeppelin, AC/DC, Y&T Rush, Triumph, Priest, Accept…list goes on. But, being a guitar player, drummer, keyboard and bass player….along as being a recording engineer, I also like Toto, Journey, Heart, John Mellencamp…. Talent!
    So I say all past & present members of KISS be inducted. Separate ceremonies Perhaps? Change up the typical Rock & roll Hall way of doing things. On a side note ,visited KissFAQ.com forum, First time….
    Man KISS fans all in a heated discussion!! Old band new lineup…TT haters. It is an Interesting read, KISS fans against KISS fans!
    Regardless of which version/era/members you prefer, it is still all about their induction.
    I hope the so called “hall of fame” does not relish fans fighting over such trivial B.S.!!
    I get the impression, that they are not real Rock ‘n Roll fans.

  50. Sorry for tuning in so late on this guys. As a Kiss fan since 1978 this is truly a proud moment in Rock N Roll history and I cannot wait till April. Like many of you, I also would love to see Gene, Paul, Ace and Peter put aside everything from egos to money and get up there together and give us fans what we want to see. And sorry Ed, I agree wuith the others, you did play a big roll, because the more you spoke the more people that agreed with you turned their back on the hall, which relates to at least some of those lack of ticket sales. We are all greatful.

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