ORIGINAL KISS GUITARIST ACE FREHLEY DISCUSSES THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME DEBACLE AND MORE

acefrehley400 Guitar World has posted an excerpt online from their July 2014 issue which features an interview with original KISS guitarist Ace Frehley. Read the clip in its entirety below.

Jeff Kitts reports:

This year started off innocently enough for Ace Frehley. Just one week prior to Christmas 2013, the former KISS lead guitarist learned that he and his comrades in the original lineup—Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley and Peter Criss—were finally being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame after 15 years of eligibility (and 15 years of outcry from the Kiss Army).

A cause for celebration, no doubt—and a golden opportunity for the four founding members of the legendary rock band to perform onstage together again for the first time since October 7th, 2000, the final North American date of their Farewell Tour.

And then, somehow, it all imploded. In the weeks preceding the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony on April 10th in Brooklyn, New York, KISS became the primary focus of every public and private discussion surrounding the event after they announced that there would be no performance—let alone a reunion—that night.

To make matters worse, the band members seized every opportunity to lambast one another in the press on a seemingly daily basis, effectively rendering what was supposed to be a triumphant reunion performance loaded with all the blood-spitting, fire-breathing, makeup-running pageantry that fans had been clamoring for all these years into a pitiful non-event.

“I was like, Jesus Christ, after 40 years of support you can’t give the fans 10 minutes?” says a still worked-up Frehley over a cup of black tea at Guitar World headquarters in New York. “The fans wanted it, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame wanted it. But Gene and Paul didn’t. It’s sad. They definitely lost some fans because of this decision.

I think the reason they didn’t want to get together with the original members was because they’re afraid of history repeating itself. When we did Unplugged in 1995, you saw what happened: because the fans were so excited about me and Peter playing with those guys, they had to scrap their last record [with then-current members Bruce Kulick and Eric Singer] and do a reunion tour [with Frehley and Criss in 1996]. Although at this point I don’t think Peter could do a two-hour show and a full tour. But I still got the chops. I definitely blow [current Kiss guitarist] Tommy Thayer off the stage.”

It’s obvious that Frehley is fired up, and with good reason. With the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame fiasco behind him, the clean-and-sober Spaceman is able to focus on the things in life that make him happy, like living in San Diego with his pretty blond 47-year-old fiancé Rachael Gordon, writing books, working with Gibson on various signature guitars and recording new music. Space Invader, his first record since 2009’s top-notch Anomaly, is due out in a few weeks, and Ace couldn’t be more excited.

“I haven’t had a drink in more than seven and a half years, and I feel great now,” says the 63-year-old guitarist. “I’m writing great songs and I’m singing great, and I’m super excited about this new album. It’s gonna be even better than Anomaly. I played some tracks for a couple of guys I was considering using for mixing, and the first thing out of their mouths was, ‘God, your voice sounds like it did on your 1978 solo record.’ Unlike some other people, whose voices aren’t maybe what they used to be. Not to name names, or anything.”

Guitar World: Your love affair with alcohol during KISS’ heyday—and, well, all through the Eighties and Nineties—is well documented. Do you miss it? Are there days when you want a drink?

Ace Frehley: No. I haven’t had the urge to drink in a long time. And I don’t miss the hangovers, I don’t miss the smells, the late nights at the bars, or the people. I was hanging out with some pretty shady people in my heavy-drinking-and-coke years. I was in some situations that really could have gone sideways. I was just lucky. And you have to realize that my fans used to emulate my behavior when I was a crazy man—“Ace is a party animal, let’s go get loaded!” Then they’d go crash their car, and I’d feel terrible.

Now it’s turned around. And when someone comes up to me and says that they haven’t had a drink in six months and that they’re doing well because I am, that makes my day. Maybe that’s one reason why God has kept me alive. By all rights I should have died a half dozen times already, so every day above ground I’m thrilled.

Guitar World: Did you think KISS would ever be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Ace Frehley: I knew that [the Hall] had to buckle to popular opinion. It was only a matter of time. We were first eligible 15 years ago, so I knew it would happen eventually. I mean, how can you exclude KISS, one of the biggest American rock groups in history? Even though we didn’t perform, I’m still thrilled to be in it.

Guitar World: Where were you when you found out that you were being inducted?

Ace Frehley: I was at home in San Diego and got a call from my manager. Then, about a week later, I got the “congratulatory” call from Paul and Gene. And I could tell that there was some hesitancy on their part about the whole thing. I was asking them if we were gonna play, and Gene avoided the question by saying, “Well, we’re just looking forward to getting the four of us up there together and celebrating…whatever.” It was a noncommittal congratulatory call.

Then, about a week later, I was told that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame absolutely wants the four original members to reunite, and I said, “Great, I’ll do it.” And there was silence from Gene and Paul. And finally it was shot down. The next thing I heard is that Paul and Gene wanted to perform with the current KISS lineup [with Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer]. And I said, Well, that’s kind of a slap in the face. I mean, they’re not even being inducted. I have to sit through a KISS cover band when I’m receiving an award? I don’t think so.

I also heard at one point that they wanted me to perform in makeup with Tommy at the same time. I really didn’t want to be onstage with Tommy, but I said I would do it, as long as I got to play the bulk of the songs and that I could wear the Destroyer costume. Then a few days later [it was], “No, we’re not gonna play at all.” It was almost like they were trying to bait me, so that if I said no to anything they would just blame me for there being no performance. I was almost going to boycott the whole thing.

For the rest of this story, check out the June 2014 issue at the Guitar World Online Store.

source: guitarworld.com

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  • pete lytel on

    Just because Ace “influenced” others doesnt mean he’s some inctrdible guitarist. He influenced kids because he dressed up like a super hero, the modern day musicians were all 12 year olds when he was at his peak. I love Kiss but in the words of Shatner everyone here needs to “get a life” and the next moron who says “Ace is back” is going to make me sick. Also, quit talking about how he outsold the other guys solo albums, 25 plus years ago.


    • Joe on

      Hey Pete……..vomit time…..ACE IS BACK!! Best of health Pete, Joe in The Cuse


    • JB on

      Well for at least another 15 minutes.


    • Joe on

      20 mins JB….maybe 30 :-). Hope all is well JB…..Joe in The Cuse


  • Shawn on

    Are you kidding……Eddie whines just as much.


    • Dana on

      Sorry, but I humbly disagree with that statement, Shawn. Compared to some of you, he doesn’t even register on the whine-o-meter.

      As a female, I am simply embarrassed by some of the comments I read on here. As I stated before, sometimes I cannot tell the difference between this board and the boards for Celebitchy or Us Weekly. I expected a much more elevated level of discourse from music fans, namely hard rock and metal fans, but I guess I expected too much.

      Dana from ET.com 🙂



  • David on

    Here’s the deal. KISS fans have always been super loyal and supported the various lineups. The issue with Tommy and Eric isn’t that they suck as musicians or not, because they don’t (although I will argue that Vinnie wrote better riffs and both Vinnie and Bruce composed more distinctive, memorable original solos). The issue is that they are wearing Ace and Peter’s costumes, which is disrespectful to what the four original members created together. If they were wearing different makeup, the fans would support, as they did with Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent. Their wearing Ace and Peter’s makeup is yet another attempt by Paul and Gene to re-write KISStory by diminishing the contributions of the other two original members. By confusing newer fans by blurring the history/identities of the spaceman and cat characters, it makes them seem less important in the scheme of things thereby making it appear that truly KISS’ accomplishments are solely due to Paul and Gene. In retrospect, knowing now how big divas they are, it makes one wonder if Vinnie Vincent was really as bad as they made him out to be. Can we really blame him for not wanting to be seen with them at the RRHoF table?


    • Rick on

      Very well said. Paul & Gene making the current members wear Peter & Ace’s make-up was the worst decision they ever made. All it did was split the fan base in two (and frankly, I think Thayer copies Ace in his playing as much as he does in his appearance, something else Bruce & Vinnie never did). This band was one of the most important things in my life for decades, and I really resent being called a “hater” because I disapprove of Paul & Gene’s current marketing decisions. The reason I don’t support the band now is the same reason I was a fan for so long in the first place – I can think for myself.
      I would like to add, Dana, please don’t be too hard on the posters here. Yeah, some of them are thoughtless idiots (like Mr. Yute, or whatever he calls himself next), but most are just very passionate about the band, and when you’re that passionate, tact and diplomacy often go out the window. It’s not right, but it is human. As both George Carlin & Bill Hicks said, People Suck (I recently watched a democrat and a republican attempt to have a “conversation,” and it made this message board look absolutely civil by comparison LOL).


    • Ryan B. on

      Rick….I’m still waiting on that People that Hate People meeting to get off the ground. We still just can’t seem to get that meeting together. 🙂 R.I.P. William Melvin Hicks


  • Michael M on

    I have a serious question: do sports figures get into their respective Halls of Fame multiple times if they have been on multiple teams in their career?

    (Sorry I do not follow sports)


    • Ryan B. on

      No, Michael. The only scenario I can think of for that, and that would require some thought, is if you have double entries into a professional sports Hall of Fame because the guy excelled at playing the sport and then coaching it.


    • Joe on

      Ryan that answer is NO also. You either go in as a player, writer, manager, owner etc: Joe in The Cuse


    • Ryan B. on

      Appreciate that, Joe. I wasn’t sure how that worked.


    • Joe on

      You’re welcome bud…..Joe in The Cuse


    • Michael M on

      Thanks, Ryan. I always thought it was redundant to have guys like Clapton or Beck in there twice or more.


    • Ryan B. on

      Sort of apples and oranges there, Michael M…..how can you put Clapton in just once with what band and ignore or not put in those in the band with him that made it great? Do you pick the Yardbirds with Clapton and forget about Cream and Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce because let’s face it, those guys probably never did enough after to warrant a RRHOF induction, but talk about them during your RRHOF video and whatnot? Do you put him in with Cream and ignore the Yardbirds or Clapton’s solo career? I won’t even get into the brilliance of Blind Faith or Derek and the Dominoes. Not enough time for either of those bands…..some of these guys just HAVE to be recognized multiple times. It just is what is because of their musical journey and how things turned out.


    • Michael M on

      I guess the best way to do it is to induct individuals. If Baker and Bruce are deemed worthy (as they should be), then they would likely be voted in.

      It just seems to me if any organization wants a HOF, there should be some kind of rules and criteria. Again, I don’t know how sports does it exactly – do they nominate entire teams? – but it would make sense to run it similarly.


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