9/9: IS ROCK DEAD? EDDIE’S TAKE.

Much made of Gene Simmons recent assessment that in his view “rock is dead”. Not the first time we’ve heard this and likely not the last. But is it true? My take on what Gene was trying to say is it’s dead for new music and new artists. Not entirely true, but again, I get where he is coming from. The truth is rock, hard rock, and metal are far from dead, but also far from the mainstream in many cases. There are some real good signs for rock out there as far as a live entity. Festivals are bigger than ever and there are more of them of all sizes than ever (maybe too many). U2, Foo Fighters, Metallica, Bon Jovi AC/DC. etc will always fill arenas and stadiums around the world. The mega bands will always draw. Motley is currently doing great business on their final tour. The road has also become a bit over crowded with too many bands touring too often. Competition is fierce out there at all levels for the concert dollar because money is not being made on album sales like the good ole days. The next tier from the pure out and out headliners are the co-headline shed bands. Think Kiss/Def Leppard. Bands teaming up and splitting set times equally to assure a good crowd. Of course this also means shorter set times and expensive tickets many times. There are very few bands not bringing name support or co-headlining these days. Most need the help selling tickets. And this is a huge problem for breaking new rock. There are so few opportunities now for a new young band to get in front of big audiences because the headliners need a name to help sell. Sure some of these packages have a new young band third billed but lets be honest, nobody is in the building that early to see them and in some cases they are buy ons, paying the headliner to play. This all ties in to the issue of the growth of rock.

Another huge problem is lack of development from what is left of record labels. It’s all about the first week now. And then albums are quickly forgotten. Sometimes not even a live show. Too many people in too many bands. Very little focus. Make a splash week one, off the charts by week four. Artist development and consistently working an album for a few singles is almost done now. Many labels hire outside “indies” to do promotion. They work hard for the weeks they are paid but when the label pulls the retainer fee they are on to the next. Tons of hired guns out there. Good people don’t get me wrong, but the real interest in the project is far from long term. Label cuts are so severe few pick up the ball after the outside help ends. Radio is also an issue. Way too many stations don’t truly support new music, or play it first week when the artist is there and never touch it again. The simple truth is mainstream radio will always do what the MOST people want. And the majority would rather hear Free Bird again than a new artist or song. Sad but true.

Delivery of music is also a problem. Everyone knows I am no fan of downloads. But to me it also kills the business. With labels less and less likely to send physical product along with some packaging and information it makes it easier to ignore. If a CD is on my desk I’m likely to have a listen at some point. If i get one of a million emails with a song attached that needs to be downloaded and transferred in any number of formats and services it is so easy to just click delete and not take the time unless it’s really something you want. I also have very little interest in the streaming services. Granted I get my music for free, but I’ve heard none of it that excites me and I think it grows the singles mentality instead of people truly getting into a band and an album. Call me old fashion but I hate when I go see a band an the entire crowd is only there for one song and is lost the rest of the time. Pure sales are so sparse now it’s hard to think who the next artist will be to score a gold record (500K). Used to be a little airplay and video play and you could make that happen. I think the RIAA is going to have to rethink sales awards.

Here’s the upside. There are a TON of artists new and classic making great new music! The bad? So little of it has a chance to break through for the reasons above and many more. But I have never been more excited than I am now for new/newer bands. Alter Bridge is growing and doing great and an arena act in Europe. Kyng, Mastodon, Scorpion Child,  Rival Sons, Monster Truck, Farmikos and many more are among my favorite new things and I play them on a regular basis. So I think from that end things are healthy. But what is truly concerning is how few people I find truly care about this stuff now. And how few have no idea Iron Maiden are still around! (dead serious, listen to calls in my satellite show). Everyone is too distracted now. We are over saturated and over stimulated with too many other things. That huge release day moment doesn’t seem to exist for rock anymore. And that sucks. I don’t mean YOU. If you are reading my site and connected to my outlets you are clearly a fan who wants to be in the loop and still very much tied in. But so many who used to be have lost that passion. As a lifer for me that’s hard to understand. I know peoples lives change, but if you love rock how can you not always? Is it dead in this respect for good? No, I don’t think so. Again the mega bands will always do well. Watch what happens when a new Foo Fighters track comes out. But they have become the token mainstream rock act for every show that needs one. We need some new blood for sure getting a shot. The mega 70’s guys only have so much left and some already have stayed too long at the party. We need that one great band with great SONGS above all to come and charge the whole scene. Let’s hope they are out there in a garage somewhere right now. We’ve had those moments where everything was given a kick in the ass; the birth of thrash, the Nu Metal movement (like it or not), the release of Appetite and the impact GnR had, the grunge movement and all the good and not so good from that. We need that band and moment again and it will come. Rock is far from dead. I don’t believe it will ever die. It’s a bit underground and in some cases over saturated but is going nowhere. I have lived it my entire life. I am out there all over the world experiencing the passion so many still have for it. And after 31 years I will continue to fight to get more platforms to help grow it and expose it. It is not easy. People would be stunned to know how hard it is for me to keep all the things I have going even after more than three decades and the success I have been able to carve out with a loyal following. But it has always been for me from day one about keeping it alive. Every day I meet someone that says to me the same thing; “Eddie thanks for keeping this alive”. John 5 just said it to me yesterday on the radio. I appreciate that like you can’t believe because it has always been the primary reason I do what I do. I know rock is not dead because I see and feel the support from all of YOU in all that I do. So thanks for that! We just need a few more to join the party and that one great new band to make it cool again in the mainstream. It will happen, just a matter of time. Keep rocking my friends and keep the faith!

ET

178 Responses

  1. Is life imitating art or have we come to the point where in the movie Spinal Tap they ask “the band on their last tour was selling out 10 and 12k seat arenas, this tour they are in 2 and 3k seat venues, is their popularity fading? Oh no the fans are just becoming more …you know….selective…” LOL

    But some points to ponder…..From the 20’s to the 40’s big band jazz/swing bands were the rock stars of their day. They were gods! Is that music still as popular today…no, but you can still find it and there are groups that still perform it. Does it sell millions, no not even thousands, but has it ever died, no.

    Then also take a look at what is happening with the country artists. Acts like Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, and Rascall Flatts are making music, selling millions, and putting on big arena style rock shows that all of our hard rock and metal acts pioneered! Our big hard rock and metal acts have been a huge influence on these wildly popular artists. Just look at the Motley Crue tribute album. These guys concerts have been HUGE draws and the fans are clamoring for the classic rock concert style show. You wouldn’t have seen Kenny Rogers setting off pyro at the close of his show 30 years ago! So whats my point…my point is that if rock is so dead then why are so many music fans flocking to these semi crossover country artists who are putting on big style rock concerts? I think the draw is still there. The fans still want to hear good music and see great show. It’s just the matter of new bands hitting that right nerve, vibe, pulse whatever. Music constantly has and constantly will evolve. Rock has had some amazing evolution as well….Buddy Holly…Beatles….Led Zepplin….The Who….British Metal Invasion….LA Metal scene…Grunge….ect….So is rock really dead or is the next biggest evolution coming?

    1. Chris, gotcha….but to be very specific, IF (and I strongly feel WHEN) Rock Music goes the way Big Band is “currently” favored, as you claim – it is still safe to consider that, as DEAD. A lifestyle that was reckoned with, to be sadly diminished to a paltry few that might still listen to it (I would proudly be part of that few) is STILL considered- DEAD.
      And on the rise of country today – Im flattered as a rock fan to see that influence (which I agree, I see it too)…BUT IT IS STILL NOT ROCK MUSIC – IT IS CONTEMPORARY POP COUNTRY!
      Respectfully, That doesn’t help the “ROCK ISN’T DEAD” argument!….the rise in country music only feeds it! If the white/middle American music listener appreciates that influence, WHY NOT SUPPORT THE NEW ROCK ACTS???
      They don’t, because THEY DON’T ASSOCIATE WITH THE ROCK LIFESTYLE. It doesn’t “sing” to their beliefs, as it did to the generations before.
      IT SADLY DOESN’T RESONATE ANYMORE, thats the key here folks – if there isn’t a SOCIAL CLAMORING FOR THE SPIRIT OF REBELLION, THEN ROCK CANNOT HAVE A NEXT BIG EVOLUTION – it dies.

    2. Good points Evan. You are correct the country acts are contemporary pop (to which I am not a huge fan) and are a far cry from ROCK. I just think that its interesting that for those acts to really up their game they had to look towards the larger rock spectrum. Obviously us rockers knew what’s good all along!

      Yes somehow ROCK lost its identity along the way. It lost that connection, that rebellion, that “hmmm that girl is wearing a Venom shirt…better play nice” kind of reaction. And it is sad.

      When MTV hit 30 years ago it did change the field as now rock went from just the FM stations to now 24 hour TV coverage. And demanded it to be more visual. Now 30 years later we are in a instant digital world where you can see and hear your favorite bands on your cell phone! Hopefully rock right now is just dormant waiting to evolve into its next realm in the digital world. Maybe its dead, but they said the same thing about Mt Helen’s 35 years ago too!

    3. Good points, plus you really have to seek out new metal/hard rock because there is almost no vehicle for it that gets to people that may not seek it out…no promotion, no radio, even Sirius plays the same stuff…Eddie’s show on Hair Nation is one of the only times you will hear new music or deep cuts…

    4. The only ones buying the country Crüe tribute are fans of the Crüe not the country act…not to mention these country acts (for the most part because I do think some have great talent) are no different than the true hair metal bands that sucked but sold records because they had a formula to sell themselves with a certain look and cheese ball rock…I hate the term hairband for bands like the Crüe, Tesla, etc. because they were just 80’s hard rock, but many bands that came out in the 80’s were Spinal Tapish to say the least. It’s happening with country-rock too…they are either just blowing up the place like Kiss and throwing in guitar solos because their songs suck and can’t be redone live or some are not even country anymore ( Taylor Swift/Miley Cyrus to name a few) because Pop still rules. The masses are asses and without the support of us hard rockers as we get older, the genre will continue to go away…at least in the U.S.

  2. dino is right, sister sin out motleys the crue itself! i have four of their cds; each one kicks major ass! definitely recommend them if u dig too fast or shout. current crue sounds without giving that pudd smuggler tommy a cent. Take a picture of this, b—h!

  3. Well said, Eddie. Thanks for keeping this stuff alive. This is actually great time to be a fan of this music. Most of our favorite bands play in clubs where tickets and beer are affordable and there’s plenty of parking. The bands seem to appreciate the fans more. No rock star attitudes. Other people may laugh at us while they pay hundreds of dollars to see Kanye. That’s fine. Those of us that get it know what we’ve got.

  4. Simmons stepped in it with his remarks about the late Robin Williams and depression, but I take his point here. He just means the glory era of big bucks and superstar breakthroughs might be over because the infrastructure has disappeared, and its hard to argue with that.

    Rock will never die. I don’t give a damn if I’m the last man standing getting chills listening to Machine Head’s “Locust” Immortal’s “All Shall Fall” Manowar’s “Gods of War” or Six Feet Under’s “Seed of Filth.”

    One thing I’m not clear on: do the members of the above mentioned bands make a comfortable living ($100k+ each) making music?

    One thing I am clear on: I support these bands by going out to see them when they come to town. Overkill/Kreator was $40 bucks–that’s a lot of dollar downloads.

    They came along after Simmon’s glory era, but you’ll never convince me that Rammstein in the fat suits with “Keine Lust” is anything less than epic.

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