Much made of Gene Simmons recent assessment that in his view “rock is dead”. Not the first time we’ve heard this and likely not the last. But is it true? My take on what Gene was trying to say is it’s dead for new music and new artists. Not entirely true, but again, I get where he is coming from. The truth is rock, hard rock, and metal are far from dead, but also far from the mainstream in many cases. There are some real good signs for rock out there as far as a live entity. Festivals are bigger than ever and there are more of them of all sizes than ever (maybe too many). U2, Foo Fighters, Metallica, Bon Jovi AC/DC. etc will always fill arenas and stadiums around the world. The mega bands will always draw. Motley is currently doing great business on their final tour. The road has also become a bit over crowded with too many bands touring too often. Competition is fierce out there at all levels for the concert dollar because money is not being made on album sales like the good ole days. The next tier from the pure out and out headliners are the co-headline shed bands. Think Kiss/Def Leppard. Bands teaming up and splitting set times equally to assure a good crowd. Of course this also means shorter set times and expensive tickets many times. There are very few bands not bringing name support or co-headlining these days. Most need the help selling tickets. And this is a huge problem for breaking new rock. There are so few opportunities now for a new young band to get in front of big audiences because the headliners need a name to help sell. Sure some of these packages have a new young band third billed but lets be honest, nobody is in the building that early to see them and in some cases they are buy ons, paying the headliner to play. This all ties in to the issue of the growth of rock.
Another huge problem is lack of development from what is left of record labels. It’s all about the first week now. And then albums are quickly forgotten. Sometimes not even a live show. Too many people in too many bands. Very little focus. Make a splash week one, off the charts by week four. Artist development and consistently working an album for a few singles is almost done now. Many labels hire outside “indies” to do promotion. They work hard for the weeks they are paid but when the label pulls the retainer fee they are on to the next. Tons of hired guns out there. Good people don’t get me wrong, but the real interest in the project is far from long term. Label cuts are so severe few pick up the ball after the outside help ends. Radio is also an issue. Way too many stations don’t truly support new music, or play it first week when the artist is there and never touch it again. The simple truth is mainstream radio will always do what the MOST people want. And the majority would rather hear Free Bird again than a new artist or song. Sad but true.
Delivery of music is also a problem. Everyone knows I am no fan of downloads. But to me it also kills the business. With labels less and less likely to send physical product along with some packaging and information it makes it easier to ignore. If a CD is on my desk I’m likely to have a listen at some point. If i get one of a million emails with a song attached that needs to be downloaded and transferred in any number of formats and services it is so easy to just click delete and not take the time unless it’s really something you want. I also have very little interest in the streaming services. Granted I get my music for free, but I’ve heard none of it that excites me and I think it grows the singles mentality instead of people truly getting into a band and an album. Call me old fashion but I hate when I go see a band an the entire crowd is only there for one song and is lost the rest of the time. Pure sales are so sparse now it’s hard to think who the next artist will be to score a gold record (500K). Used to be a little airplay and video play and you could make that happen. I think the RIAA is going to have to rethink sales awards.
Here’s the upside. There are a TON of artists new and classic making great new music! The bad? So little of it has a chance to break through for the reasons above and many more. But I have never been more excited than I am now for new/newer bands. Alter Bridge is growing and doing great and an arena act in Europe. Kyng, Mastodon, Scorpion Child, Rival Sons, Monster Truck, Farmikos and many more are among my favorite new things and I play them on a regular basis. So I think from that end things are healthy. But what is truly concerning is how few people I find truly care about this stuff now. And how few have no idea Iron Maiden are still around! (dead serious, listen to calls in my satellite show). Everyone is too distracted now. We are over saturated and over stimulated with too many other things. That huge release day moment doesn’t seem to exist for rock anymore. And that sucks. I don’t mean YOU. If you are reading my site and connected to my outlets you are clearly a fan who wants to be in the loop and still very much tied in. But so many who used to be have lost that passion. As a lifer for me that’s hard to understand. I know peoples lives change, but if you love rock how can you not always? Is it dead in this respect for good? No, I don’t think so. Again the mega bands will always do well. Watch what happens when a new Foo Fighters track comes out. But they have become the token mainstream rock act for every show that needs one. We need some new blood for sure getting a shot. The mega 70’s guys only have so much left and some already have stayed too long at the party. We need that one great band with great SONGS above all to come and charge the whole scene. Let’s hope they are out there in a garage somewhere right now. We’ve had those moments where everything was given a kick in the ass; the birth of thrash, the Nu Metal movement (like it or not), the release of Appetite and the impact GnR had, the grunge movement and all the good and not so good from that. We need that band and moment again and it will come. Rock is far from dead. I don’t believe it will ever die. It’s a bit underground and in some cases over saturated but is going nowhere. I have lived it my entire life. I am out there all over the world experiencing the passion so many still have for it. And after 31 years I will continue to fight to get more platforms to help grow it and expose it. It is not easy. People would be stunned to know how hard it is for me to keep all the things I have going even after more than three decades and the success I have been able to carve out with a loyal following. But it has always been for me from day one about keeping it alive. Every day I meet someone that says to me the same thing; “Eddie thanks for keeping this alive”. John 5 just said it to me yesterday on the radio. I appreciate that like you can’t believe because it has always been the primary reason I do what I do. I know rock is not dead because I see and feel the support from all of YOU in all that I do. So thanks for that! We just need a few more to join the party and that one great new band to make it cool again in the mainstream. It will happen, just a matter of time. Keep rocking my friends and keep the faith!
ET
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“The next tier from the pure out and out headliners are the co-headline shed bands. Think Kiss/Def Leppard.”
Funny you keep overlooking Motley Crue/Alice Cooper and Aerosmith/Slash.
I know. Right?
Always LOL
Glad I’m not the only one who notices that…2 months ago all I heard was Kiss sucks, the tour is failing and they NEED Def Leppard, yada yada…Now this article mentions most bands doing co-headlining tours because they have to…And how would those that say that explain that earlier this year The Crüe was opening for Kiss?? They can’t…
New music from U2 and Bush this week.
Gene’s never been more right.
I think Rock has a better chance of surviving in Europe than in the states. Established Bands like Edguy, Avantasia, Helloween, Masterplan and Children Of Bodom or newer acts like Unisonic have continued to keep rock alive putting out quality material every year in my opinion
Yes. Europe seems to have stayed
pretty hip when it comes to the heavy rock genre. I am old enough to remember when American artists had to establish themselves in Europe before they would pop here in the states.
Reason is Europeans don’t have as many stupid reality singing shows shoved down their throats, nor do they have nearly as much cheesy pop as we do on the states…In the U.S. there is almost no vehicle for Hard rock/metal, whether new or classic…that’s why just about every hard rock fest is anywhere but the U.S.
As much as I would like to agree to your points, being a European myself, I must say most (privately owned) media over here actually copy much of the “stupid shows” of American television … it’s like a virus. I am curious, who told you it was different? On the other hand, rock is still going quite strong here, at least thinking about live shows and festivals, but the problem of downloads and streamings is the same everywhere you go as long as people own computers.
I’ve been throughout Europe many times and I know they’ve got shows like x-factor, but it seems that our music in the U.S. is just so manufactured and calculated because of those type of shows, plus as you said, metal is still alive and we’ll throughout Europe…a band like W.A.S.P. can play to a great crowd throughout Europe, which is where they spend most of their touring, whereas I saw them play to about 250 people…the crowds are more into the shows it seems than they are in the U.S…..many of these metal bands have stopped coming on U.S. tours because they don’t sell…When I was in London a few years ago, I found five private record stores to make some purchases too…you can’t find a record store here…It also seems like new bands actually have a medium to get there music out, whereas in the U.S. there is almost none. If I watch the MUCH MUSIC Awards which is done in Europe, the show has so much more rawness and even the American pop acts seem to have a better time onstage..you obviously are living it, as an outsider who has spent time across the pond, it is the vibe I get…good chat Schocoman…
Well I think Gene Simmons and his acrimony is all about the money he apparently loses everytime a tour doesn’t sell enough tickets or maybe is a sold-out but the prices are not so high as he thinks should be… I’m a big fan of Kiss and I believe that Gene Simmons is one of the greatest characters in the music business and also as an art form but I’m really into Trunk said about rock is far from death. Actually -and I’m not a great listener of newer bands I’m more attached to the classic sound from 60s to 2000s (the first part of the decade unless) I think out there are many artists who are making really good job in terms of albums and songs and have a genuine attitude and all that. I believe that the internet subculture -mp3s, iPads, downloads, streaming services and all these weirdo devices- are functioning against the rock subculture with all their immediacy and easiness but it’s not enough to kill rock or music at all. Great musicians are still out there playing becasue they love it and not only to be a million-visited-star on YouTube. Greetings from Lima, Peru, SouthAmerica…
I find it interesting and frustrating that radio seems to be ignoring NEW music, even by ESTABLISHED artists. Example: Rod Stewart put out a new cd last year. I never heard a single track from it on the radio. When he comes to town on the tour, the radio stations will play Maggie May for the billionth time to promote the concert. But he’s touring to promote his NEW MUSIC. And at the shows people cheer and sing along with the classics, and make a bathroom break/beer run during new songs. Would love to hear your thoughts on this Eddie. Thanks for a great article, and promoting discussion.
Here in Jersey we have WDHA who do play new along with the old. But again, like every other station, when they play the old bands, it’s the same 5 songs, examples: Zeppelin-when was the last time you heard The Rover? The Who-Bargain? I could go on and on. You have a great point as regards Rod Stewart, but it’s not just rock stations. A few years back I read an article where Dolly Parton was complaining that her critically acclaimed and big selling CD got no play on “Country” stations. Remember Johnny Cash’s last albums? Big sellers, critics loved them, but no air play. And those statiions won’t even play their old stuff-it’s always on to the next pretty face with a ripped off rock riff.
I love the hypocrisy of classic rock radio: Sponsoring a show? Giving away tickets? Getting an interview with a big star? Play his stuff all the time while he’s in town-As soon as he’s gone, back to hardly ever playing his stuff.