As I have said consistently since the announcement that Kiss will be going into the HOF, now is when much of the discussion and negotiation on what goes down starts to happen. You have what Ace and Peter want, what Gene & Paul want, and what the HOF itself wants to happen, and somewhere it all needs to be worked out. With the holidays behind us expect info to come out as we get closer to the date and the various parties talk. There is already some very differing information coming out now as a matter of fact. If you listen to my interview with Ace (now on my home page for all to hear), it is clear he would like the original band to be featured since they are the members actually being inducted. Speaking of that, there has been much debate since the announcement on even this topic. The HOF makes that call and they decided the founding members only. That’s what I was told by several people who actually have votes. That could also be an issue on how this goes down and something being discussed internally. My view on it personally is if it isn’t just the original band, then it should be ALL the people that have been a part of it. But everyone has consistently told me, including voters, it is only the original four actually being inducted. That does not mean however that others from the bands history won’t be there and won’t even potentially be involved as was the case with Heart and others. Ace also stated in the interview with me the HOF wanted the band in makeup which he was open to. Both Peter and Ace said they spoke with Gene and Paul and vibes were good before the holidays. Ace expressed concern in my interview about how the current band would be represented vs him and Peter who are actually being honored. Ace’s concern is also likely fueled by a VH1 Rock Honors event in 2006 where he was in the strange position of not being allowed to play with Kiss, while Tommy did dressed as him. Ace played with the tribute band that night to Kiss.
Last night Paul Stanley’s twitter account showed a glimpse into the very different views about what will and won’t go down and the issues that still need to be worked through. You can check the feed for yourself @paulstanleylive When asked last night if the original band would play together at the HOF his response is “seems unlikely”. When asked if he thinks working with Ace & Peter would be better now that both are sober he responded “No”. When asked if he would wear makeup with Ace & Peter he responded “No way”.
This is clearly a shift in what fans thought and were hoping for and what Ace and Peter mentioned. It also points to the various egos, posturing and control issues that could turn something the fans have wanted for 15 years into a train wreck! Paul’s answers do not surprise me at all. For Gene and Paul this puts them in a tough spot having to reconnect with members they’d prefer not to deal with no doubt, and who they have spent the last 10 years trying to recreate in the current band. Quite frankly coming out with the original band once again in makeup opens up a huge can of worms with fans that they have been trying to keep a lid on for a decade. It does not work with what they are currently trying to sell so well. And make no mistake, like it or not, they know seeing the original four in makeup again would be HUGE for fans and put a dent in what they have been selling to fans; that it doesn’t matter so much who’s behind the makeup. So you can already see how some of this is playing out. Gene & Paul on one side trying to protect the current Kiss and not go down reunion road again, and Ace & Peter wanting to be sure their night being inducted pays tribute to them, and not other versions of the band not being inducted. Nobody wearing makeup would take away some of the confusion as to who is who, but as per Ace the HOF really wanted the band in costume.
I understand Gene & Paul wanting to protect their current business model. Trust me, they know and have seen first hand the avalanche a reunion, even for a few hours, with Ace & Peter will cause (MTV Unplugged). It would be nice to think for one night the fans could celebrate the original bands induction with all of them working together for a few hours. Then bring up everyone from KISStory at the end for a jam or something. But I suspect this has many twists and turns still to come and Paul’s tweets last night give just a little peak into how this could unfortunately get very messy. If you are planning on buying tickets to this to see a Kiss reunion even for a couple songs as many have told me, I would seriously hold off. Looks like much still to be decided and as per Paul’s verified Twitter account it doesn’t sound promising at the moment. Listen to the interview with Ace I did a couple weeks ago, then read Paul’s tweets last night. This isn’t me stirring the pot or with any inside information. Just doesn’t take a genius to see there are some very different opinions as to how this should go down already. We shall see…I’m sure much more as we go.
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I agree this KISS stuff is silly, but I’m going to hold off judgment until the HOF ceremony happens and I see how it goes down. Paul has a book coming out, so there will be a million interviews before then. I have to think that Gene and Paul understand that in Eric and Tommy show up there and get on stage they will be booed out of the NEW YORK arena. IF they EVER had the balls to put them in makeup, there would be a riot.
I have no desire for a reunion, and I don’t think any of 4 of them even want one. Just play nice for one night and give the fans what they want. I just think the current situation of them dressing 2 guys in Ace and Peters make up is embarrassing. They also copied their backstory’s, and Tommy now writes songs about being from outer space and Eric sings about growing up in the streets. Boo.
Gosh Dr,
I dont know what you were on when you wrote this but, I agree with you . This is so unlike you !
…..And thanks for not bashing Peter and Ace …………for once lol
I was a big kiss fan in the 70’s, I still love Kiss from the beginning to 1978. Does any other era really matter? No, it really can’t be mentioned in the same breath, that why that’s the era the current line up is emulating. No disrespect to the other members like Eric Carr who certainly recharged the kiss batteries, but the indelible images are gene,Paul, peter and ace. That’s who the hall is finally recognizing. Paul and gene need to put their egos in check and be smart about this, screw the brand nonsense, the Beatles without the original four, ain’t the Beatles. I bet gene wouldn’t deny that, not that he’d allow that too be mentioned. I never knew how much I loved ace and peter until the got screwed,. For the hall ,no make up, no clones, just the originals, playing Detroit rock city, rock and roll all night. I think that’s all the fans want anyways, then dare I say it, make that the last kiss performance ever.
My 2 cents:
Original Members are inducted by Rush/BonJovi/Bob Seger (others who Kiss had as supporting acts)
No make up
All four Originals re allowed to give speeches.
All members of Kiss are asked to join in the music segment.
They should play acoustic at first (my vote – “Beth”) and then electric with “Deuce” and “RNRAN”
Then blow up the stage.
Gene’s Raccoon Wig…. hahahaha!
My 2 cents: All comments by Paul and gene moving forward will be to throw us all of the trail. Original 4 with make up and re constructed Alive II stage that was used in Detroit Rock City will be the stage they use. You watch. ….and where’s Drago? [ die hards will get that ]
Being a KISS fan since 1978, I love all that contributed to keep KISS ALIVE for over 40 years now. The thing is for the HOF to induct a group, they have to exist for at least 25 years plus but if you look at KISS, Peter and Ace were not part of KISS for 25 years because other members became part of the family. When you look at it this way, it is clear that all member should be included, not just the original members so, all guys should play together!