As I have said consistently since the announcement that Kiss will be going into the HOF, now is when much of the discussion and negotiation on what goes down starts to happen. You have what Ace and Peter want, what Gene & Paul want, and what the HOF itself wants to happen, and somewhere it all needs to be worked out. With the holidays behind us expect info to come out as we get closer to the date and the various parties talk. There is already some very differing information coming out now as a matter of fact. If you listen to my interview with Ace (now on my home page for all to hear), it is clear he would like the original band to be featured since they are the members actually being inducted. Speaking of that, there has been much debate since the announcement on even this topic. The HOF makes that call and they decided the founding members only. That’s what I was told by several people who actually have votes. That could also be an issue on how this goes down and something being discussed internally. My view on it personally is if it isn’t just the original band, then it should be ALL the people that have been a part of it. But everyone has consistently told me, including voters, it is only the original four actually being inducted. That does not mean however that others from the bands history won’t be there and won’t even potentially be involved as was the case with Heart and others. Ace also stated in the interview with me the HOF wanted the band in makeup which he was open to. Both Peter and Ace said they spoke with Gene and Paul and vibes were good before the holidays. Ace expressed concern in my interview about how the current band would be represented vs him and Peter who are actually being honored. Ace’s concern is also likely fueled by a VH1 Rock Honors event in 2006 where he was in the strange position of not being allowed to play with Kiss, while Tommy did dressed as him. Ace played with the tribute band that night to Kiss.
Last night Paul Stanley’s twitter account showed a glimpse into the very different views about what will and won’t go down and the issues that still need to be worked through. You can check the feed for yourself @paulstanleylive When asked last night if the original band would play together at the HOF his response is “seems unlikely”. When asked if he thinks working with Ace & Peter would be better now that both are sober he responded “No”. When asked if he would wear makeup with Ace & Peter he responded “No way”.
This is clearly a shift in what fans thought and were hoping for and what Ace and Peter mentioned. It also points to the various egos, posturing and control issues that could turn something the fans have wanted for 15 years into a train wreck! Paul’s answers do not surprise me at all. For Gene and Paul this puts them in a tough spot having to reconnect with members they’d prefer not to deal with no doubt, and who they have spent the last 10 years trying to recreate in the current band. Quite frankly coming out with the original band once again in makeup opens up a huge can of worms with fans that they have been trying to keep a lid on for a decade. It does not work with what they are currently trying to sell so well. And make no mistake, like it or not, they know seeing the original four in makeup again would be HUGE for fans and put a dent in what they have been selling to fans; that it doesn’t matter so much who’s behind the makeup. So you can already see how some of this is playing out. Gene & Paul on one side trying to protect the current Kiss and not go down reunion road again, and Ace & Peter wanting to be sure their night being inducted pays tribute to them, and not other versions of the band not being inducted. Nobody wearing makeup would take away some of the confusion as to who is who, but as per Ace the HOF really wanted the band in costume.
I understand Gene & Paul wanting to protect their current business model. Trust me, they know and have seen first hand the avalanche a reunion, even for a few hours, with Ace & Peter will cause (MTV Unplugged). It would be nice to think for one night the fans could celebrate the original bands induction with all of them working together for a few hours. Then bring up everyone from KISStory at the end for a jam or something. But I suspect this has many twists and turns still to come and Paul’s tweets last night give just a little peak into how this could unfortunately get very messy. If you are planning on buying tickets to this to see a Kiss reunion even for a couple songs as many have told me, I would seriously hold off. Looks like much still to be decided and as per Paul’s verified Twitter account it doesn’t sound promising at the moment. Listen to the interview with Ace I did a couple weeks ago, then read Paul’s tweets last night. This isn’t me stirring the pot or with any inside information. Just doesn’t take a genius to see there are some very different opinions as to how this should go down already. We shall see…I’m sure much more as we go.
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I hate to think this way because I’ve been a fan since I was a kid, but after reading Paul’s comments this has got a disaster of Axl proportions feeling to it. He’s making off like doesn’ t care a bit about what the fans want or say because his ego is bruised. Everyone (including the RnR hall) still prefers the past and he hates it. I betcha Gene really doesn’t mind because there’s definetly a buck or two million to be made by all this, but he’ll publicly side with his partner.
Paul is fustrated already and as much as I hope not, this could get pretty ugly. It’s become apparent that this Hall of Fame induction means more to the Kiss Army than it does to Paul.
Look… look how it turned out with Van Halen…. don’t expect it to turn out perfect or great with KISS either.
If the band can’t play nice I’d really rather not see any of them inducted into the Hall of Fame… without a Ace and Peter the band would not have it sound or the character that fans know today. along the way other members “replaced” them and contributed to what Kiss is today. Frankly I wish that they would go on the Dr Phil show and work out the issues. As much as I love these guys and their work today I can’t listen to a Kiss album without thinking about all the drama going on in the background and as a result I’ve pretty much tune the band out.
Hell if Eddie and Lex Van Halen can bury the hatchet with DLR, then Gene and Paul can suck up 2 hrs of there life for all the “true” KISS fans, and play with 2 guys who actually help them become who they are today. If not, I will be done for life with Gene & Paul !
KISS’ s best years are behind them, and musically and commercially they haven’t contributed anything noteworthy in a really long time. Manipulating media dollars to promote their ‘ubiquitous’ business model cheapens the award of being honored for their contributions to the rock music legacy that is rightfully theirs to claim. The chemistry is the legacy, and it starts (and remains) with the founders. If the controlling parties can’t figure out how to be humble and work without gain to ensure that the celebration of their success is honored appropriately, then they should decline the nomination and allow another band to be inducted so that those fans can celebrate the tradition and influence that the music and performance have had on their lives. This isn’t about commercial viability or artist preferences, and these guys are supposed to be old enough, mature enough and BIG enough to not let this come between the fans and the music.