As I have said consistently since the announcement that Kiss will be going into the HOF, now is when much of the discussion and negotiation on what goes down starts to happen. You have what Ace and Peter want, what Gene & Paul want, and what the HOF itself wants to happen, and somewhere it all needs to be worked out. With the holidays behind us expect info to come out as we get closer to the date and the various parties talk. There is already some very differing information coming out now as a matter of fact. If you listen to my interview with Ace (now on my home page for all to hear), it is clear he would like the original band to be featured since they are the members actually being inducted. Speaking of that, there has been much debate since the announcement on even this topic. The HOF makes that call and they decided the founding members only. That’s what I was told by several people who actually have votes. That could also be an issue on how this goes down and something being discussed internally. My view on it personally is if it isn’t just the original band, then it should be ALL the people that have been a part of it. But everyone has consistently told me, including voters, it is only the original four actually being inducted. That does not mean however that others from the bands history won’t be there and won’t even potentially be involved as was the case with Heart and others. Ace also stated in the interview with me the HOF wanted the band in makeup which he was open to. Both Peter and Ace said they spoke with Gene and Paul and vibes were good before the holidays. Ace expressed concern in my interview about how the current band would be represented vs him and Peter who are actually being honored. Ace’s concern is also likely fueled by a VH1 Rock Honors event in 2006 where he was in the strange position of not being allowed to play with Kiss, while Tommy did dressed as him. Ace played with the tribute band that night to Kiss.
Last night Paul Stanley’s twitter account showed a glimpse into the very different views about what will and won’t go down and the issues that still need to be worked through. You can check the feed for yourself @paulstanleylive When asked last night if the original band would play together at the HOF his response is “seems unlikely”. When asked if he thinks working with Ace & Peter would be better now that both are sober he responded “No”. When asked if he would wear makeup with Ace & Peter he responded “No way”.
This is clearly a shift in what fans thought and were hoping for and what Ace and Peter mentioned. It also points to the various egos, posturing and control issues that could turn something the fans have wanted for 15 years into a train wreck! Paul’s answers do not surprise me at all. For Gene and Paul this puts them in a tough spot having to reconnect with members they’d prefer not to deal with no doubt, and who they have spent the last 10 years trying to recreate in the current band. Quite frankly coming out with the original band once again in makeup opens up a huge can of worms with fans that they have been trying to keep a lid on for a decade. It does not work with what they are currently trying to sell so well. And make no mistake, like it or not, they know seeing the original four in makeup again would be HUGE for fans and put a dent in what they have been selling to fans; that it doesn’t matter so much who’s behind the makeup. So you can already see how some of this is playing out. Gene & Paul on one side trying to protect the current Kiss and not go down reunion road again, and Ace & Peter wanting to be sure their night being inducted pays tribute to them, and not other versions of the band not being inducted. Nobody wearing makeup would take away some of the confusion as to who is who, but as per Ace the HOF really wanted the band in costume.
I understand Gene & Paul wanting to protect their current business model. Trust me, they know and have seen first hand the avalanche a reunion, even for a few hours, with Ace & Peter will cause (MTV Unplugged). It would be nice to think for one night the fans could celebrate the original bands induction with all of them working together for a few hours. Then bring up everyone from KISStory at the end for a jam or something. But I suspect this has many twists and turns still to come and Paul’s tweets last night give just a little peak into how this could unfortunately get very messy. If you are planning on buying tickets to this to see a Kiss reunion even for a couple songs as many have told me, I would seriously hold off. Looks like much still to be decided and as per Paul’s verified Twitter account it doesn’t sound promising at the moment. Listen to the interview with Ace I did a couple weeks ago, then read Paul’s tweets last night. This isn’t me stirring the pot or with any inside information. Just doesn’t take a genius to see there are some very different opinions as to how this should go down already. We shall see…I’m sure much more as we go.
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Being a fan of the original members to my age of 12, I get the sentiment, but Ace and Peter worked their way out of the band with both poor behavior and playing, they sure as heck don’t have their chops now after being “sober” for whatever amount of time. Not that Gene and Paul are all GQ at 60 + now, but both Ace and Peter look absolutely terrible, I don’t want to see either one in make-up, what’s Peter like 70 now? Not sure how to resolve this, but hoping the original four don’t play in make up.
Haha, a Gene and Paul camper. Peter and Ace don’t look any worse for wear than Paul and Gene. Have you taken a good look at Gene lately??
I’m glad KISS got into the RRHOF but I’m getting tiered of the hate they are getting! KISS deserves to get in and those individuals who say otherwise dont have a clue. The original 4 should be honored but also they’ll the line ups should be mentione. KISS have and continue to change and shape the music industry, quality rock shows along with the recruitment of new fands.
Will somebody please explain to me who Paul Stanley thinks is going to show up at the HOF for the ceremony? Is it the casual fan who might have caught a show during the reunion? Is it the man on the street who only knows R&RAN? Is it the “fan” who doesn’t care who’s who under the makeup and just wants to see the fireworks at the shows? No, it’s people like us who truly care about KISS, its music and history and believe that all four original members should be equally honored and respected. Nobody expects a full-blown reunion at this point, so what’s the issue with spending an hour or so together with the original band and paying tribute to what they built together?
This my view as someone who loves original band but has seen them a number of times with current lineup. My view is I would not be hurting gene paul financially by not going to shows why would I deny myself a night out in summer seeing a version of kiss because it not original 4. . Now as someone who didnt hate tommy or Eric for playing their parts and have paid to see them I will despise them if they show up in that iconic makeup and will never pay a dime to see band again. I think a lot of kiss fans who have paid see this lineup will stop going out of spite for gene paul denying us one last time see original 4
Eddie!! if the original band doesn’t play then I say hell just have the best KISS tribute band in the world play. I don’t know who that would be. but have the original band say a few things up there and then FUCK IT. Let a younger better more energized KISS play the music and make the stage moves. Pauls voice is gone anyway. Im gona be so pissed if they have Tommy and Eric play. I will never spend another dime on KISS or have anything to do with them. That would prove they don’t care a bout us fans at all. I think Gene wants to do this with Peter and Ace. Its Paul’s Huge bullshit ego stopping it. Come on Paul!!! More than likely 1 of you 4 original members will be dead in 5 to 10 years. Quit being a pussy and give the fans what they want. WE WANT THE BEST-WE DEMAND YOU GIVE US THE BEST! THE HOTTEST BAND IN THE WORLD. KISS (Ace, Peter, Gene and Paul)
Why don’t Pete and Ace pull out at the last second and really mess it up for the other 2 clowns.
I highly doubt if that would “mess it up for the other 2 clowns”. That would make things much easier for everyone. ( ahh to think before you post)