Andrew Catania of All That Shreds Magazine spoke with original Judas Priest guitarist K.K. Downing. Excerpts from the interview appear below.
All That Shreds: Do you think it was unfair that they didn’t ask you to come back when Glenn announced his condition? Do you think Andy Sneap was a good fit?
K.K. Downing: Totally unfair. People come and go in bands. Rob left for 14 years and came back to the band. Even today I’ve still been in Judas Priest longer than Rob. I was in the band three years before he joined. Andy does look out of place. I would imagine he’s going to go back to producing.
All That Shreds: When you announced your retirement in 2011, was it more frustration with the direction of the band was going?
K.K. Downing: Initially, I sent a letter that I’m bowing out gracefully and retiring. I tried to do it in a certain way not to burn bridges. When management and the band announced my retirement, something flipped in me and I just told them the truth. I chose my words carefully but it was still things that certain people didn’t want to hear.
I wasn’t happy for a long time. The decisions that were being made and certain attitudes on people. I didn’t buy into that. I bought into a plan that every band member was equal in the decision making. I’m still an equal shareholder in Judas Priest Music, LTD so it’s all a bit confusing and awkward.
All That Shreds: When did you start getting unhappy with the bands’ direction?
K.K. Downing: Glenn and I were two different people and I had an awareness of this at a young age. Glenn and I never had a bond as a band should. I don’t have complaints about what we achieved. I used to get really really frustrated with Glenn. Fame and fortune can change people and you start to see a pecking order starting to formalize and that’s usually when problems start creeping in and bands have major issues. This is what happened to us. Rob left the band, and we just made Painkiller, for f–k’s sake.
All That Shreds: Why did Rob leave priest back then?
K.K. Downing: He’s never told me. I can only think that Rob wanted to cut free and announce he’s gay. He didn’t make that announcement for six years until we announced we had Ripper as our new singer to deflect attention from Jugulator. I believe Rob left thinking he could be like Ozzy,, go it alone and have all the fame and glory to himself.
All That Shreds:Comparing Rob to Ripper, who do you feel is a better fit for Priest?
K.K. Downing: Physically and technically Ripper is a better singer than Rob because Tim was always in tune. Rob is good. Rob got better after he started using in-ear monitors.
Ripper would murder the show and we’d come offstage and the fans would be saying good show but when’s Rob coming back?
All That Shreds: What were the events that led up to Rob coming back to Priest?
K.K. Downing: Sharon Osbourne called and asked if Rob was back in the band. She was going to pay us a lot of money to play Ozzfest. It didn’t happen the first time. The same thing happened another year. By this time, we’ve done the Demolition album and things seemed on the decline for us. The venues were getting smaller and smaller. Glenn wanted to produce the album and I wasn’t happy with that decision. I stepped away from the project for a while but came back and did what I could to contribute. Our past albums were getting popular again as Sony re-released our back catalog and Painkiller was getting popular. Painkiller wasn’t that popular when we released it. I feel it was fan demand.
I’m involved with a music venue not too far from me. We put Skid Row on stage with their new singer. I thought he did a fairly good job. I saw some lives shows from before with him and didn’t think they were good. I’m used to seeing Skid Row playing festivals with Guns N Roses and such. It’s not the same without Sebastian Bach.
All That Shreds: Do you have any contact with anyone from Priest?
K.K. Downing: None. They don’t respond to any of my correspondence. Glenn is always the one that controls the behinds the scenes with Jane from management. It’s a bit like a John Lennon/Yoko syndrome.
Andy and Ritchie are on a wage. They’re not really part of Judas Priest. The band is Judas Priest Music. I’m 25% shareholder and Director of that company. It’s a bit of a mess, really.
All That Shreds: Why did you auction off your rights to Judas Priest music?
K.K. Downing: Unfortunately, time isn’t on anybody’s side. I sold them off outright. Time isn’t on Glenn’s side or mine. We’re either approaching 70 or over 70. You start living off borrowed time. There’s really no place for egos. It’s all about being grateful for what and who we are and what we achieved. It’s comes to a point when the fans are more important than anyone cause you need them to stay with you.
All That Shreds: When you first joined Priest, did you ever think the band would be as popular as it is today?
K.K. Downing: You don’t think like that. You think more I shouldn’t be doing this but I’m a naughty boy and I want too….Sometimes you can release an album and it will fail cause it’s too soon to release. That’s happened to us on a few occasions.
All That Shreds: What are your plans for 2019?
K.K. Downing: I get tons of offers to do music. I was more dedicated to Judas Priest than Rob or Glenn ever was. Glenn took six years off to do his albums. Rob took 14 years to do his. Rob released two albums in 2010 with the Halford band and did Ozzfest. Somebody like me can only take so much. Then I got a call from management to start writing for a five-track EP. They asked back in 2000 and again in 2010. That was one of the reasons I quit. I told them I’m not doing it.
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16 Responses
I admire K.K., and since there is usually three sides to every story, I do believe there is some truth in his statements.
However, when it comes to comparing The Metal God, who is an original, to Tim “Ripper” Owens, who is the disciple, there is no contest.
I agree Dana, and notice that he thinks that Skid Row isn’t the same without Sebastian Bach, but can’t understand why the fans preferred Rob. Don’t they have a right to their preferences too?
I read the full article and he said that nobody should’ve been doing solo albums…and I agree with him….I don’t think he ever wanted Rob to leave Priest; he did say over there that Rob’s voice is the Priest sound…
KK is a very sharp guy; for a guy who just played guitar his whole life…this is one very astute person. Lol….notice how he frames what he says…
Yes, I have a lot of respect for his honesty. But since this is my favorite band, he may not be serving himself well by being quite so transparent.
Man everytime I read something from KK its he`s either selling something or bitching about Judas Priest.
He`s the one that quit the band !!!! Did they think they were going to pack it all in if he quit ? Dude is freaking broke now and wishing he was in the band. I wouldn`t have asked him back either, why would I ? he quit. He should just man up and live with his bad business decisions and his decision to leave the band without having to demean his old mates because of his ego. Freaking whiner. Glenn was mean to me waaa waaa,lol. Oh ya and to say Ripper was always in tune unlike Rob is BS and I like Rip but there`s no comparison just another jab. He`s ready to swoop up the rights to the
I thought it was Don Henley that wrote/sang/performed the song, ” Dirty Laundry?!”
While I do appreciate transparency in today’s world, I’m wondering what’s the reason for this negative publicity. I guess the same reason dog’s lick their balls. Cause’ they can.
Ripper being compared to Rob is tantamount to saying Zakk is a good as Randy. While both extraordinarily talented, Randy is the original and irreplaceable.
There’s a lot of stuff in KK’s comments that you guys gloss over..except Dana…
As a layperson, a typical fan teenager, I noticed back in the 80’s after Defenders that the lead ratio started to disproportionally favor Glenn…then..on Ram It Down, Glenn had his own Eruption, on Painkiller KK is practically the rhythm guitarist…The Fuel for Life video favors Glenn…and all this time, I noticed it but I thought KK was fine with it; Glenn might be the best all-around rock guitarist in the business, he is an exceptional player…well, turns out he wasn’t and that does hurt me as a fan. So, I really feel for KK here…and even back then, as a fan, I would’ve liked to have had a more equal split, maybe not even an exact equal split but I wanted to hear more KK…he’s such a unique player and his style really compliments Glenn’s…I can’t think of two guitarists whose styles compliment each other more. This equality is why Defenders is such a strong record; you had Glenn’s showcase, followed by KK’s…there’s a magic there that bands get that gets lost, as KK very astutely points out, when egos get in the way. KK does take some swipes at Rob here and they’re disingenuous. Rob has much deeper roots than Tim, there’s stuff in there that pre-dates rock and roll even..Rob also is a professional dramatist where he gets in there and acts the parts much like Olivier did. Rob also would completely change up his singing style to fit the material to where it almost doesn’t even sound like the same person. Tim doesn’t have these qualities…and KK never said he did, he just said Tim has a stronger voice, which may be factually true (again, KK could be a lawyer the way he franes things..lol…this guy has a very sharp mind)….KK shared the stages with both singers and maybe has a different perspective than we do; maybe vocal strength ranks high for him because of the touring…
-and I really would appreciate it if guys on here would stop referring to actions concerning male genitals…I like to read and not feel like I am about to get sick…I mean really, can we please grow up? chubby? dogs and their parts? and you guys don’t like my comments?