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kiss-return Ethan Sacks of the New York Daily News reports:

KISS may not have performed together on stage at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, but they managed to put their ugly feud behind them long enough to accept their statuettes Thursday night.

The four original members of the band who had been trading barbs ever since news of their induction broke — Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley on one side and their ex-bandmates, Ace Frehley and Peter Criss, on the other — took the high road to the stage at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center, trading conciliatory speeches that honored each other’s history with the band.

“This is a profound moment of all of us. We are humbled that the fans ever gave us the chance to do what we love doing,” Simmons told the audience after a rousing induction speech from Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Morello.

“To Ace Frehley, whose iconic guitar playing has been imitated but never equaled … to Peter Criss … there’s not a guy who beats the sticks who sounds just like Peter,” he continued. “Something happened 40 years ago, I met the partner and brother I never knew I had: Paul Stanley. You couldn’t ask for somebody more awesome to work with.”

Simmons then skirted dangerous territory — name-checking all of Frehley and Criss’s successors who were not named to the Rock Hall, but rebounded with one last olive branch.

“We wouldn’t be here today without the original fantastic four,” he concluded.

Criss then took the microphone, thanking everyone who’s ever worked with the band and discussed how he’s been been seven-years healthy after a battle with male breast cancer. He took the evening’s only shot at the drama surrounding Kiss, referencing Eric Singer’s use of Criss’ famous cat makeup. “I want to say, in or out of makeup, I’ll always be the Catman, so it really doesn’t matter. I also want to say, you gotta forgive to live. It’s really important.”

Frehley cut the tension by admitting that he couldn’t read his speech because his sunglasses weren’t prescription, before discussing his seven years of sobriety and how the country needs more education about substance abuse.

Finally, Stanley wrapped it up, saying, “For us, this is a special night but it’s really a special night for our fans because this is vindication. Peter, Ace, Gene, we are the original foursome. We couldn’t have done this if we hadn’t started together. Everything we’ve done is built on the past. We’ve got a great, great legacy.” Then he took a dig at the Hall, and all the critics who’ve denounced them and voted against them. “The people pay for tickets, the people buy albums, the people who nominate [Hall inductees] do not.”

Frehley told the Daily News back stage that he was disappointed that a compromise couldn’t be reached.

“It wasn’t my choice,” he said of not getting the chance to perform. “I wanted to do it. But the bottom line is we’re still brothers in rock ‘n’ roll. And even though we don’t see each other for five, 10, 15 years, it’s just like yesterday.”

Read more at the New York Daily News.


source: nydailynews.com and billboard.com


      1. I’ve been a fan since 75…not embarrassing to me at all. Kiss doesn’t owe me anything. That’s the problem with some of you people, you feel like they owe you something. At the end of the day not a single one of us had or has to participate in what they do. It’s up to us to either way. Thank god that growing up I had a band I could latch onto, and band that made music fun and influenced me to become a musician.

        I’m not embarrassed at all, in fact I’m just as proud to be a Kiss fan now and of the original guys as I was when I started nearly 40 years ago.

        1. Well said JB. No one owes anybody anything except decency. These guys have provided me way more entertainment than the few hundred bucks I’ve spent on merch, music and concerts.

        2. That’s your opinion I guess not mine, they just seem bull headed and petty. sound and act like crumpy old men. The fact they could not get there crap together for three songs is disappointing and says a lot about them personally considering everyone else played. I think they are going to regret it, they get one shot at it and they blew it.

  1. With all the drama leading up to this, the way it transpired with Kiss last night, I believe, was the best we all could have hoped for. I was really happy with Peter and Ace’s speeches… and Gene’s… I wish Paul would have thanked more people instead of using the opportunity to slight the HOF, but that’s just me. No mention of Bill Aucoin by Paul or Gene, who was really the most instrumental in Kisstory besides the guys themselves… thankfully Ace & Peter took care of that. All in all, a nice way to say goodbye to the original 4, as we’ll probably never see them on a stage together – ever – again.

    1. Paul stated everyone covered the thank you’s…how many times can the same people be thanked when you’ve basically got about 2-3 minutes to speak. Besides, Paul and Bill had become close again in Bill’s later years…Paul pays plenty of kudo’s to him in his book.

      Paul said what needed to be said about the RRHOF. Very few other musicians have had the balls to say anything and few have ever said it like that. In fact Paul’s speech was probably the best speech I’ve heard at an induction…right beside Alex Lifeson’s…blah, blah, blah speech. They get the absurdity of it all.

      It’s not about Dave Marsh, Jann Wenner and the Springsteen clique, it’s about the people who allow all of it to even exist…the fans. I thank Paul for having the balls to say what needed to be said.

    2. Paul and Gene should have thanked Bill Aucoin, Sean Delaney, Neil and Joyce Bogart because they wouldn’t have it without those key people. Thank goodness Ace and Peter would thank them, along with Carols Kaye and Ross. Ace and Peter never forgot who was instrumental in KISS’ success.

  2. Wow Gene speech sounds so mature and respectful. I bet deep down he would’ve done a performance with Ace and Peter. It probably eats him up that there are all these bands there playing well and Kiss didn’t get the chance to blow the roof off. I’m sure Gene would have loved to show up all the other nominees… To show them how it’s done.

    1. Gene had originally indicated he would perform with the originals. ‘sure why not’ I believe was his Twitter response. Agreed, Gene did very well. His comments on Ace I’m sure were appreciated. Let’s hope Paul stops talking for awhile now.

      1. It was Paul. His ego and distaste for Ace and Peter’s past transgressions are what prevented the original four from playing at the RRHOF. Gene is joined at the hip with Paul, so what one does the other must follow. How’s that saying goes, “The tail wags the dog,” or something like that. People vilify Gene for his ego and money-hungry ventures, and rightfully so, but Paul by far is the worse of the bunch! Eddie Trunk will tell you. Gene at least talked to him in Vegas. Paul will never speak to Eddie again.

        1. With the HoF now over, we can look back before and during the HoF as Paul definitely blew it. Gene, Ace, and Peter were open to playing together, but Paul was the lone holdout and started creating drama in addition to having his book out. With this airing next month, Paul’s speech may likely be edited the most.

          As for the 2-3 time limit in comparison to the other acts, it’s clear that it was applied to KISS the most. The HoF singled out KISS big time. I don’t think it was their night at all.

          1. Would you rather them play and not be nearly as good as what we remember from the past or would you rather them do what they did last night? I don’t think anything good would have come from them performing last night. Peter is 68 for crying out loud. If it had been 14-15 years ago, they’d have blown the roof off the place. In 2014, there’s a good chance that it would have been a let down and as a big KISS fan, I would really hate for them to fail in front of that crowd.

  3. Well let’s put this in a nut shell, Paul Stanley mentioning the two current members that are in the band now got boooooooood, and Paul had to stop because the booooooooooos were to loud for him. Do I need to say anymore. The originals are the originals Ace, Gene, Peter and Paul., and no other band members should were there makeup.

          1. Probably because they’re both named Bruce. It’s not that difficult to comprehend, for most.

    1. They weren’t booed when Gene mentioned them.They weren’t booed when TM mentioned them. You forget that ? Peter was booed when he made mention of him being the only Catman.Completely uncalled for. In both cases, whether it was actual Bruce chants or booing and the booing of Peter , had no place at last night’s celebration. As to Paul thanking more people, he did by starting off saying something along the lines of everyone that the others have already mentioned(they had a speech time limit). Thank God he took a stab at the Hall. All speeches were great, Pete tried to veer off but didn’t go to far. If fans don’t like it, that’s fine, the guy that sold the make up should give it up. While all speeches were good, Gene really surprised me, the mere mention of Vinnie is something I didn’t think would happen. Ace was great, once again his best work was a cover tune(borrowed joke),Peter tried veer off, but I think he was just so happy to be there he couldn’t. Paul knocked it out of the park and said what had to be said while still celebrating what the 4 of them started.

      1. If Tommy and Eric were not booed when Gene mentioned them, it’s because Gene also mention Eric Carr, Vinnie Vincent, and Mark St. John.

        Peter being booed for the Catman comment was only the person doing the video. There is another video of another angle of the HoF speech and there were no boos during Peter’s comment.

      2. Uhh Todd Fagan, Peter wasn’t booed when he mentioned he was the only Catman…..which he is….so stop pulling the Paul Stanley bullshit story. I was there

      3. Hey Todd Fagan there was no damn booing for Peter that’s BS, and Paul had to stop his speech because the whole arena was booing when he mentioned the 2 cover band members Eric and Tommy…and they didn’t book when Gene mentioned their name cuz is was in the middle of Bruce, Carr and Vinnie….get your facts straight , i was right there I’m pretty sure you wasn’t…

        1. ” I’m pretty sure you wasn’t” ???? really? you are trying to sound credible with that? you know they have these books like “grammar for dummies”

          1. no I’m not trying to sound credible…i don’t need to since i was right there watching it, you old fart Shadez, you should try to read those books then or maybe audio tapes since I’m not sure that books is your thing…lol

  4. How appropriate, I get the first comment. They still got it, that crazy chemistry, an ontological phenomenon, this force of nature that’s unstoppable. Gene’s comments meant the world to me, glad someone else knows who the best lead guitarist and drummer for Kiss is besides me. 🙂

  5. Dave Marsh is a freaking liberal moronic joke. Jann dictates everything. Morello would be okay with Che back from the dead as president. Nice wig Gene, long lost from Cher. Paul’s extensions look okay. Ace doesn’t look healthy. Bring the awards to a Chillah Covention so we can see em, n shit on Gene & Paul.

          1. I meant you could have said something like, “hey Marsh, is this the worst night of your life?” or “suck it, Marsh, Kiss should have been in 15 years ago”. Or “I nailed your wife last night in full Kiss makeup”. Something to stick it to that A–hole!

  6. may it come to an end finally – my childhood/youth has been diminished enough these past years of sniping and name-calling from my first musical heroes. There’s nothing left for me to be excited about regarding KISS that hasn’t been tainted by the whole ego trip safari these past years.

  7. Considering he had previously called Ace and Peter a Cancer, and in his book called them “hacks”, it’s difficult to really accept that Gene’s comments were genuine, but I truly hope that maybe in that moment, standing up on that stage, Gene decided to shut his ego down long enough to be a real man.

    “To Ace Frehley, whose iconic guitar playing has been imitated but never equaled … to Peter Criss … there’s not a guy who beats the sticks who sounds just like Peter,” he continued.

  8. “To Ace Frehley, whose iconic guitar playing has been imitated but never equaled … to Peter Criss … there’s not a guy who beats the sticks who sounds just like Peter…”

    Read between the lines. There is no compliment here. This statement could be interpreted in many different ways.

  9. I hope Eddie picked up on this. Peter’s speech was the cleverest as he consciously yet subconsciously imbeds the fact that there is only one KISS. Peter addresses , ” I’d like to congratulate the band, of course—Mr. Stanley, Mr. Simmons, and THE ONE & ONLY SPACE-MAN, Ace Frehley. He continues … I want to say that, in or out of makeup, I’ll always be THE CATMAN.” On that note I hope Paul after professing,the fans buy the records, the tickets, it’s the fans who should have the finale say. Paul you heard the fans ” boooo ” when he mentioned Tommy & Eric’s name . The fans have spoken Paul WAKE-UP !!! You dont have to play w/ Ace & Peter anymore so quit bashing them ! To anyone who think the audience was saying ” bruce ” and not booing are simply in denial. It was a big BOO !

    1. There was no booing when Gene mentioned them ,there was also no booing when Tom mentioned them. there was booing when Pete made his catman remark. I guess you missed that,or it just doesn’t jive with the way you think ?. That booing was also out of place at last night’s event.

      1. The booing during Peter’s speech was the guy who was recording the video. The crowd cheered when he made those comments, there is a better video up that clearly shows this. Singer And Thayer got booed in Brooklyn, NY.. LIVE WITH IT.

    2. The person who made the video of their speech booed Peter and was clearly a fan of the current lineup.
      It was clear the fans that night cared about the originals.

      1. of course the fans there that night only cared about the originals…because that was the lineup being inducted! You can all thump your chests acting as if you were somehow proven right, the fact is if you were right, KISS couldn’t tour anymore because nobody would go…so your wrong, the original lineup matters to some but not most, just accept it and go sit in the corner and listen to the 70’s as life and KISS passes you by.

          1. If the original line-up mattered to most Kiss fans, Kiss would not be able to tour at all. Very few would show up to the shows. And as we all know, that is not the case. Once again, E Black, you prove that you are not very smart.

    3. It was “BOOOOOOOOOOO”…..,I was there & every1 was booing….some of these meatheads that say it was Bruce Kulick are just here bullshitting while they support Paul & Gene. That’s fine but if you act like a internet meathead then your dumbasses are getting grilled, badly.

    4. 2 things, the handful of fans at the RRHOF may have spoken, but tours, and cruises prove that is only a small portion of fans. You ask Paul to stop bashing them? He is just now beginning to fire back from years of Trunk interviews and books by the other 2 that started all this mud slinging, they are big boys, if they want to talk trash they better expect this, even Ace said they all have good and bad to say about each other, but its obvious to me that you only find it acceptable when Ace and Peter do the bashing…is that about right?

  10. They may have behaved for the induction ceremony, but none of the pics that were taken should be mistaken as four happy campers. At least all the ones I’ve seen, Gene & Paul seem to be keeping their distance?
    I wasn’t there, did they all sit together at one table? Were they interacting? Getting along?
    Appear to be having a good time? Or was it all just make believe for the crowd?

    1. According to Eddie, they didn’t sit at the same tables. Paul and Gene had theirs, Ace had his with Eddie, and Peter had his. They did hugged when Paul and Gene arrived.

  11. What I liked seeing during Ace’s speech was Gene and Paul in the background, guys who have quite frankly crossed the line to a fault with derogatory comments of late that I have found somewhat insulting (if you ask me) to previous members (ie. Mark St. John), allowing themselves a light moment and smiling and laughing to some of the comments and jokes by Ace (ie. the summer of love joke that went over peoples heads, the diarrhea/willpower/addict analogy, etc) – letting their guard down and being human….for a (refreshing) change. That is what will stick in my mind. These guys love Ace and Peter deep down when dollars and cents aren’t in the equation; there just alpha dogs whose competitiveness becomes a little absurd at times and buries some of the more positive emotions that do in fact exist. It’s good to know there is more good will between the 4 of them than we sometimes might think or realize.

  12. i know that i personally heard paul pretty much only thank tom at the beginning of his speech and i do believe that was it, even though the other guys thanked people from that era of the 70’s notice gene and paul didn’t..i’m simply just saying it, i thought overall it was good and i thought ace was real cool and funny but hey its ace, i am so glad for them and wouldn’t want it any other way then for paul to not have boycott the live performance with only original kiss cause we all know it really boiled down to him. and i disagree with that..i also think i heard some booing ..when names were mentioned..ouch

  13. KISStory has been made. It’s what I predicted – that the original lineup would not perform together, but rather accept the award at best. With this airing next month on HBO, I can see Paul’s speech being edited the most.

  14. I have to say that the four of them onstage really does make an impact that I certainly did not predict…even though better musicians have come and gone, Peter and Ace just gel with Gene and Paul…my assessment of the chemistry is Peter and Ace are hardcore, partying, fun people, but Gene and Paul are more stiffs in that department…Peter and Ace make Gene and Paul more “loose” in the approach to the band while Paul and Gene make the other two more responsible…THEY NEED EACH OTHER…you don’t want your band mate missing shows and recording sessions, but bands lose their edge because of over thinking after success, to maintain success…That’s why I think Gene and Paul have such a hard time with those two…A great night for the band regardless..

  15. I can see the dollar signs in genes eyes. They will have a shit turnout for their 40th anniversary tour. As long they are all still alive and well there is a chance they will reunite, especially with poor ticket sales this year.

  16. The four of them onstage together, out of make-up, dressed up in nice clothes last night still had more mystique & magic for that 10 minutes last night than any performance I’ve seen with Thayer & Singer. It was KISS! All speeches were genuine & heartfelt. Glad Peter had the balls to say Ace is the real spaceman because quite simply it’s true! I’m happy Paul said what he said about the RRHOF because again it’s true. Liberals like Dave Marsh are in denial and tend to replace FACTS with knee jerk reactions & dishonest misleading ploys to get what they want by any means necessary. If that was the last we’ve seen of the original four together on the same stage at the same time I’m ok with it as it could’ve been much worse. Again the magic was there. You could see it and you could feel it. Thank you Ace, Peter, Gene & Paul for acting like grown men and walking into the sunset peacefully. I’m officially done with KISS going forward as the original four have reached the mountain top three times now. There are only two post-1977 Kiss records that even come close to matching the first six studio albums and the first two Alive albums. Those would be Creatures of the Night & Revenge. Eric Carr & Bruce Kulick were great while they were in KISS and I love both of them. But it was a very different era of KISS that does not come close to comparing to the original KISS. But at least the non make-up years were “original” in their own way compared to the Kiss cover band of today. I could totally dig today’s Kiss if they took the make up off. There’s only one true KISS in make up. They are Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Ace Frehley & Peter Criss. Case closed.

      1. I love LIU. The title track, Not For The Innocent, A Million To One, Fits Like A Glove And On The 8th Day are certainly crushers in the Kiss library but I still think Revenge is overall a much better album.

  17. Thank god that’s all over!! I must say looking at pix I don’t get a good warm fuzzy feeling. They don’t look happy at all. Looks more like a funeral to me. Peter looks very uncomfortable and so does Gene. These guys don’t love each other!! Paul may of made a good point about tarnishing the image of the band playing with Ace and Peter. Ace is way over weight. No way he would of looked right in his Spaceman suite. Ace needed to lose at least 30lbs. Mabe 50. Peter on the other hand would of looked dead on. He’s in really great shape. Looks like Paul has lost some of the weight he was gaining. Paul may have made the right call after all. Im really looking forward to the new Ace record at this point. Current Kiss? I really don’t care or have any interest anymore at this point. The constant bashing of Ace and Peter and not somehow playing one more time for the fans pretty much ha put a real bad taste in my mouth. PETER GET YOUR ROCK RECORD DONE!!!

  18. Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Nils Lofgrin and Patty Scialfa were inducted with the E Street Band. They are NOT original members of that band. Just thought I’d throw that out there.

      1. How is that reaching? The E Street Band formed in 1972. Lofgren and Scialfa joined the band in 1984. That’s a fact. Obviously, not part of the original band, but yet they were inducted. Instead of bad-mouthing Paul, you should be lauding him for taking a stand against those HOF assholes.

    1. These noobs on here don’t care Truth…they think the Hall cares about Kiss because they finally got in. The RRHOF is a joke…and you just pointed out why. What’s funny is I can see true Kiss fans having a disagreement about things within the family…but “some” on here, the ones I question even have any real knowledge of Kiss can’t see that Marsh, Wenner, RRHOF and all those cronies completely disrespected Kiss. Clearly obvious when they can’t even give kudos to Paul for basically telling the establishment to suck it. Again, your post is proof…Kiss can’t get members like Carr or Kulick in but I’m sure in a few years Springsteen will be getting his roadies inducted. Sad how blind or just stupid some people are. Ridiculous.

      1. You really believe Paul as taking a stand,huh? Is that why he was willing to play, but only with the current band? Let see, he was willing to accept the award with Ace & Peter but not play with them. How about Gene being all for playing with Ace & Peter until Paul cracked the whip on him? Paul is upset because he didn’t get his way. He knew if he played with Ace & Peter there would be a demand for the real KISS . Oh, and for you so called fans who keep saying that people still want to see them, Is that why they have to co-headline tours now? Last time they came around on a headline tour they gave away their remaining tickets to first responders and their families the night before the show. Guess what? Up to five tickets per person. Nice that they gave them to them, but very indicative of their current drawing power.

        1. E Black, your arguments are weak and tenuous at best. You’re an Ace/Peter guy, which in my opinion, gives us a glimpse into your own personal life. You are, more than likely, a f-up in your life (like Ace and Peter). You probably don’t understand the importance of a strong work ethic (which is why you can’t relate to Paul and Gene). You tend to live in the past. (that’s why you’re an advocate of the original 4 members with no compromise) Now, this doesn’t just apply to you. It also applies to all the other Ace/Peter posters on this board. But on the other hand, if it doesnt apply (doubtful)…………. Disregard

          1. LMFAO
            TRUTH you are an ASSCLOWN of the highest order! OMG are you delusional or what? “gives us a glimpse into your own personal life” ARE YOU HIGH? LOL DUDE, GO PUT ON YOUR UNDEROOS AND GO TO BED. LMFAO

          2. If Paul was so offended then why show up at all? KISS should have got in 15 years ago but KISS shoots themselves in the foot with crap like Dolls and Hello Kitty and all the other crap over the years it is hard to take them serious if your not a fan.

        2. Well…first of all, there’s maybe a handful of bands that can tour on their own now. Something Eddie brought up recently on one of his shows…so that is a mute point.

          2nd…do you really wanna see Pete back there…he can barely raise his arms. Watch any number of tours with him upon his return. Besides…Eddie, who appears to be one of his PR people has stated, Peter doesn’t want to do it anymore…so mute point. Doors been open to Ace several times to return. As for Paul…thank god someone shut playing down. Ace is huge, Pete is a fragile 68 year old man, Paul’s voice is gone, Gene can barely move. Eric and Tommy essentially carry those guys now. Hell no I didn’t want to see them give a second rate performance giving more fodder for Wenner, Marsh and the RRHOF cronies. Where were those dickheads 15 years ago when Kiss were rehearsed and really could have blown the roof off. Screw the RRHOF…and thank you Paul for shutting it down. I certainly don’t need to see them play to stroke my ego.

          Lastly…if you don’t like the current product then don’t watch, don’t follow, don’t buy, don’t go but why bitch about it? Plenty of people still do or they wouldn’t be touring or selling merchandise etc… How is that bad, how has that tarnished Kiss…it’s a freaking rock n roll band, they aren’t the messiah. I don’t like the current Kiss, I do like Eric because he’s a brilliant drummer but I don’t like Tommy, not as a guitarist, not in Kiss and not as a person. I’ve met him several times. Further I haven’t bought anything (barring the books) or seen the band since the Farewell Tour but get this…I still support them. I support the fact that they’ve earned the right to do whatever the hell they wanna do with Kiss and say whatever they want to say. It won’t change my opinion on them in the least. I love all the original guys been with them since 75, I’ve loved many lineups…the COTN lineup was untouchable when it came to great albums, tours and musicianship, I loved the Revenge era but they aren’t sacred in any way…at the end of the day, they’re just a rock band who’s given a helluva a lot of people a soundtrack for my life and still make a lot of people happy.

        3. I’m guessing that Ace and Peter would have come in for a song or two without makeup was likely Gene’s idea while Paul only wanting to play with the current lineup in makeup. Of course, Ace and Peter were right in turning down both of these ideas.

  19. Anyone who booed anyone in kiss at the show is so lame
    ya got what ya wanted what a cool night leave it be ..

    Stop trashing paul and gene cause they moved its over okay
    now let kiss do what they do tour make new albums and awesome songs

    Aka. STAND from sonic boom

    1. Dave,

      They did. Click on the highlighted Rolling Stone link at the top of the article and you will able to read Morello’s introduction speech.

      Dana from EddieTrunk.com 🙂

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