*UPDATE* GENE SIMMONS SAYS “ACE AND PETER WILL NOT PERFORM WITH KISS AT THE ROCK N’ ROLL HALL OF FAME,” VIDEO POSTED ONLINE

KISS400 According to Ultimate Guitar, KISS frontman Gene Simmons told Radio.com that if the band is inducted into the Rock N’ Roll Hall Of Fame, they will not be re-uniting with original members Ace Frehley and Peter Criss.

Simmons stated, “No. How many chances in life do you get? When you stick your hand in fire, you get burned the first time. Fire and nature doesn’t care if you’re a good guy or a bad guy. Both of those guys had three chances to be in the band. Three times they f–ked it up. They were every bit as important as we were at the formation of the band and they would have been the ruin of the band if they had continued to be in the band. When you have a cancer in your system, it’s best to cut it out as fast as you can. It used to be a part of your body; it turned into cancer. You gotta cut it out.”

Simmons also added that he believes his former bandmates are much happier not being in the band, “I believe that both Ace and Peter are happier now. They’re healthier, they both look fine. When they were in the band, they were both on junk, or crack or alcohol. Clearly not a healthy place for them. They belong home doing autograph shows in clubs. They’re happier.”

See the entire interview below. The comments in question appear at 4:26.

source: ultimate-guitar.com

Comments

  1. Gene has no class. their recent albums are a bore.

  2. MetalMania says:

    I got tired of reading all the posts on this, but I’ll throw in just for the heck of it. I’m not a KISS fan, I guess I like a handful of songs but I never really “got it” with them. I do however acknowledge their legacy and enduring fanbase, and think that they should be in the hall of fame, or shame, or whatever the hell it is at this point. As Eddie pointed out, they haven’t been voted in yet – it’s only (another) nomination, but for the sake of argument let’s say they get in this year. Trying to be somewhat objective, WHY are they there? Because of the band as it is comprised today? No. Their place on the high side of the rock mountain was attained in the 70’s and 80’s. And that was with Ace and Peter, and Bruce Kulick, and Eric Carr, or whoever else was there. How long was Vinnie Vincent in the band? I don’t think it was long but Kulick was like 12 years right? Like I said, I’ve never been much of a fan so I’m not sure. I really feel that anyone that was significantly involved and contributing to the band in that period should be included in the induction. If they can’t get over themselves to play together, well that would be a shame but so be it, but I can’t agree with acting like the time with the other guys never happened. Maybe they pissed their success away, but they were still part of it. It’s “KISS” that would be inducted, not just “Gene and Paul”. Someone who passed through the band for one album or tour I could see being excluded, but guys who were “core” for a while seems inexcusable. Isn’t this supposed to be about the band, the music, and their impact to the rock genre and its history? I couldn’t care less about how they managed their wealth and what drugs they did. And no disrespect to Tommy Thayer, but I would hope that even he would feel wrong being up there without Ace and Kulick. Since the guy’s job is to IMITATE Ace that should tell right there Mr. Frehley should be there.

  3. KISS is a cover band without Ace/Peter!!!!!!!

  4. So Kiss are getting inducted? I thought they were just nominated.

    I take Gene’s comments with a grain of salt. Even Paul has stated in past interviews that Gene loves the limelight and will embellish his stories.

    I like a versions of Kiss as they all put out decent music. I do hate the politics but…to me, it is just about the music.

  5. Had Peter and Ace died as a result of drugs and alcohol abuse then Gene and Paul would be considered great guys for carrying on. Since their both still alive but for the grace of God, then Gene and Paul are these financial bullies who victimize Ace and Peter on a daily basis. The business of a major band is important and I’m glad KISS still exists. Would people be happier if Young and Young shut down AC/DC 30+ years ago? Is Brian Johnson a faker when he does Bon songs? Ace and Peter are great but not reliable so Gene and Paul kept it going with other guys and that’s a good thing. KISS has good songs without Ace and Peter. I’m a big fan of both of them but at the time they couldn’t get it done and KISS moved on.

  6. Ted Chmiel says:

    Gene Simmons new Twitter handle: @A$$hole4Ever

  7. K Wagoner says:

    When will Gene ever grow up and stop bashing Ace and Peter, being a hypocritical douche and trying to steal the limelight from them and get back at them? Never comes to mind.

  8. kiss today is a laughable act of clowns.. sorry guys but these bozos n the band today didnt bring you king of the nighttime world or god of thunder , beth or shock me . kiss today brought you the another wannabe kiss album sonic bloom which was ate up quickly by monster which i havent heard but its something apparently aint hot so i, i ask myself .. laughing this is a joke.. these two last albums should be toasted on grill

    • anthony gisolfi says:

      Your 100 per cent right on this post What gene wants the new fans to think is the current lineup is the best yah right —What hit songs do they have in 2013 none !!!!!!!!! Aces guitar playing style cannot be copied your born at birth with this gift Mr frehley finishing up his new album that’s what im looking forwart to !!

      • Ace’s guitar playing style was created in part by Bob Kulick, and copied by Tommy Thayer. Credit Ace for the first 3 records. After that take your pick. As to what songs do they have in 2013? What kinda shot is that? What songs do Metallica have in 2013. How about Maiden? Other than Sabbath, name me a rock act that released anything listenable in 2013 besides Sabbath and KISS? If you wanna hate, makes sense. But do so logically and factually. Saying a band with a 40 Year history did shit all in 2013 is ridiculous to say the least. WTF did Ace and Cry Baby do in 2013? Or 2012, or 2011…..

  9. Never a Kiss fan, think they’re a joke.

    But obviously many like them even though the Hall is a joke; LL Cool J nominated for induction ??
    Give me a break.

    If they do get in, hope all who contributed to their band (same with any other) is included.
    Hopefully they won’t induct just Simmon’s ego, unless they build a new wing that it will fit in.

  10. It’s too bad Tom Snyder is dead because that interview is immortal. Instead of all this anti-Gene repetitiveness ( he s a rich arrogant guy, I get it) , go watch Ace Frehley and the whole trout player thing. Ace is worthy of some type of Hall of Fame for that. F@#king hysterical.

    • That was the best piece of rock band interview ever. The uncomfortable look on Gene’s face when Ace tells Snyder that his character is actually a plumber is priceless. He was so fucked up, and Gene was uncomfortable as hell.

  11. Taskerofpuppets says:

    These “guys” could stand to learn a few things from the band METALLICA. Jesus what a disgrace to rock n roll history. If they are the self-proclaimed greatest rock band in the world now, then they certainly were back in the beginning. Honour the fans and yourselves by being humbled- not a chance with these schmucks. Turns out Sabbath, VH & GNR aren’t the only douche bags in the RRHF. Never loved these guys like some many from my generation.

  12. unmasked is great

  13. i hope they play what makes the world go round

  14. ps, fuck fake ace and phony catman. naked city

  15. when your walls come down, you’ll swallow everything when your with me… ps gene is a cock

  16. Simmons is getting to be just as bad as assbag Hagar…shut the hell up and go away!

  17. I’m the King! I’m the King! I’m the! King! I’M THE KING! I’M THE KNG! I’M THE KING! I’m the king of the nighttime world……….Lost in all this Gene bashing and over-love for Ace and Peter is the fact that Paul Stanley is the best front man in the business besides David Lee Roth. Never forget VODKA AND ORANGE JUICE. That guy’s been bringing it for 40 years and the ALIVES are what they are ’cause of him. EVERYTIME WE DO THIS ONE, THE PLACE LIGHTS UP LIKE A DAMN CHRISTMAS TREE…

  18. Well, being nominated and being inducted are 2 different things. Consider the source when it comes to Gene talking trash on Peter and Ace. Garbage from a guy who didn’t have the decency to marry the mother of his kids till he couldn’t get the groupies anymore. Listen to them on y-tube in recent shows….hard to watch…they sound awful. LEMMY and Motorhead should get inducted.

    • God, now were talking about his marital history. Fucking pathetic. Good shot. Guess you didn’t like the fact that he was LIVING IN SIN!

      • Your education level is showing. IDGAF whether he married his bottom b or not…but he’s got no fuckin room to talk about “how many chances” Ace and Peter were given when Shannon gave him chance after chance. Hypocrite asshole.

        • Wow……you are right Pandora. Maybe you should decide how many shots they get.

        • Yes lets save these posts for all the rock stars who married the first woman they slept with and had kids with. Next we’ll talk about NBA stars who do the same. Happy you spelled education correctly. Its the only correct thing you’ve posted thus far.

  19. If only Gene was relivant….

  20. I usually stick up for Gene with this KISS stuff. Even though i think he was wrong Putting Tommy and Eric in their makeup instead of giving them there own make up. i kind of understood it those guys had a lot of chances Paul and Gene kept the band together for years and it seems like those two bad mouth them alot.. but that said its BS if the get in that those two aren’t allowed to perform.. shit i think Bruce should be allowed to perform and Vinnie and Even Eric Carr’s family and Mark St Johns family should be there in some form…. Cmon Gene i am your biggest supporter but DO THE RIGHT THING…

  21. Well if they aren’t going to play with Ace and Peter then there’s no point of an induction. Congratulation’s Gene, you just screwed yourself and the band.

  22. This is unfortunate. I offer a suggestion to not only Gene Simmons but to the original band as a whole.
    Before you close the door on this opportunity, please take the time to speak to the members of RUSH.
    I recently had the chance to speak with Alex and Geddy, and it was surprising to them just how much it meant to share that together. Neither had really emotionally prepared for it, and both felt so grateful for the night – to celebrate it together. Agreed, RUSH and KISS are indeed apples and oranges, but each band has surely paid their dues. We’ll never see bands like them again, the molds are broken – please don’t let the lasting memory be broken as well.
    In my opinion, participation should be decided jointly by the original four. Those four guys created what we all love … not one or two of them.

  23. 100+ posts great job everyone.

  24. Patrick Marrapese says:

    After reading Nothin to Lose I have a whole new respect for Gene, Paul, Peter, and Ace. Its unbelievable what they endured to make it. Reading the book also gives me a new found respect for the stand Gene and Paul are taking. They have put their lives into this band and sacrificed everything to keep the ship afloat. Ace and Peter both went through periods where they were not pulling their weight….While we re all entitled to our opinions, only Gene and Paul can say whats right or wrong for the band, as its their blood, sweat, and tears that have kept the band alive. And it would appear they haven’t made too many poor decisions because this incarnation still draws quite a following. I’ll be headed to Miami on Sunday for the third KISS cruise with fans literally from all over the world…This will be my third KISS cruise and those boycotting(biting their nose off to spite their face) are missing out on what is an unbelievable experience. With that being said, that is only my opinion, and we all are entitled to our own. I would suggest reading the book…..Unbelievable the road they took to success…And to think they’re still one of the hardest working bands out there….Impressive

  25. Taskerofpuppets says:

    KISS cruise, eh? Does everyone sleep in kiss caskets. These guys are corporate whores.

  26. gene says in the new book that “you drive us wild…” was written about the king book christine. can u fucking believe this shit!!! his lies and hyperbole are now so out of whack they are off by a decade! pudd smuggler….

  27. torpedo girl

  28. eddie. you have to leave this story visible for a few more days before it goes into the archive. exciter

  29. Nothing sparks a debate on this site like KISS ! You either love them or hate them. I myself am a big fan. At this point, I am over Ace and Peter. I have been around enough drunks and addicts in my life, that I do not blame Gene for being done with them. The HOF is a joke and they probably won’t get in anyway, so I am not too concerned about the performance. Of course, I would like to see the original four perform if it happens. But like I said, I am over Ace and Peter. Monster and Sonic Boom kicked ass, much better than the” reunion” album, Psycho Circus. They will be inducted, whether they play at the ceremony or not. KISS has endoured four decades and all members should be incducted for being part of it. ……..but it doesn’t matter anyway, LL cool J will be going in instead !

  30. Now Gene has said his words were they would not tour with Ace and Peter again. Nothing about leaving them out of induction if that happens. He was misquoted so he says.

  31. This is just a nail in the coffin for me. i am done being a kiss fan. done. Over the last few years, gene and even to an extent paul’s actions and statements have just soured it all. Even listening to the music leaves a sour taste in my mouth. i think it is sad that it is all business and not about fans, music, loyalty. You can’t put it aside for ONE night to give credit where credit is due. give ace and peter their due. disgusting. just done. I always say that the biggest FU would be if Ace Frehley was inducted solo into the RRHOF before Kiss. then watch gene’s attitude change. lol

  32. This board just proves what a PR master Gene is, he’s knows how to demand attention, good or bad. At this point he just says controversial stuff so he can sell more books, cruises and football. And the 40th anniversary tour can’t be far behind. I don’t even think Gene believes half of the stuff he spews forth, he just knows how to stay in the headlines, which = $.

  33. Taskerofpuppets says:

    Who spews more crap, Gene Simmons or Donald Trump? They appear to be of the same ilk.

  34. Maybe Hall and Oates could masquerade as Ace and Peter and they could do a medley of RICH GIRL/GOING BLIND/OUT OF TOUCH/AND THEN SHE KISSED ME….I want the last comment so bad. I feel I did an admirable job being a pro-Gene/ Paul guy. Those 2 have kept it going all these years and I’m glad. About 25 years ago I got SMASHES, THRASHES AND HITS for Christmas on CD. That was the perfect intro to this great band. Then they got back together 9 years later and everything after is gravy. Anyone else remember Ace on MORTON DOWNEY JR SHOW. Great guitarist and a funny guy with a great laugh.

  35. i hate this ahole, yet when he said kissology 4 will be ten hours, im like damn, i needs me that!!! shes so european

  36. Just two years ago, Gene said in an interview that they would play one last time together if they were inducted to the Hall, now he says they won’t do it? Not sure why the change of mind, but how would they do it if they were to play with Ace and Peter? You know Gene and Paul would want Tommy and Eric there, would Ace, Peter, Tommy and Eric all wear the make up? How goofy would that be? Personally as a life long die hard fan I think Sonic Boom and Monster are both very strong efforts and I wish they would play much more of that stuff live. I mean you supposedly want to move forward with Tommy and Eric in the band, put out two strong records with them and then hardly play anything from the records live? In my opinion at least half of their current set list should be made up of songs from Sonic Boom and Monster if you truly want to move forward with these two in the band. The Monster tour is the first tour I didn’t go see in ages just because of that reason. Anyway I also think it’s a an outrage the way they are treating Ace and Peter. If they are inducted I hope Ace and Peter show up and every Kiss fan there boos Gene and Paul mercilessly and chants Ace and Peter’s name all night. Gene and Paul deserve to have tomatoes and eggs thrown at them at the ceremony for this if it happens. By the way who are Gene and Paul kidding anyway? If a promoter came along and offered them something even reasonably close to say “Zeppelin Money” so to speak to reunite for one more tour with Ace and Peter, you know they’d do it for the money, they’re full of it they say wouldn’t.

  37. metalheadnurse23 says:

    I am a KISS fan since 1977, at the age of 6! But I agree, I am not a fan of Tommy and Eric. Ace has always been my favorite. I have seen him with KISS at the reunion and farewell tours, and a few times solo, and have met him a few times and he has always been gracious. When I have seen KISS without Ace, and Tomny attempts to play Ace`s signature Shock Me, well, I use that opportunity for a bathroom or beverage break. Gene, Paul, Ace, and Peter ARE KISS to me, and always will be. Gene is a pompous ass and Paul just seems like a wimp to me. And yes, I will always love the original lineup.

  38. I was a huge Kiss fan from 76 – 79. Big Ace fan to this day . I started playing because of him , like thousands of others. My personal opinion aside , when people think of Kiss it’s 1977. That’s the body of work that makes them relevant. I think everyone should be recognized and be up there at the presentation, but the jam should be the original 4

  39. KISS GETTING INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK N ROLL HALL OF FAME IS LIKE THE KISS ARMYS SUPERBOWL,,i AM A HUGE ACE FAN,,I LIVE IN BKLYN AND WILL ATTEND THIS,,I SWEAR IF ACE AND PETER DONT PLAY THERE WILL BE A RIOT ,,I SEEN EVEN ON THE ROCK N ROLL HALL OF FAMES WEBSITE THEY ARE NOW POSTING THAT GENE AND PAUL DONT WANT TO PLAY WITH THE OTHERS,,GROW UP GENE AND PAUL ,, THIS IS NOT THE SANDBOX

  40. WHY!!!!
    I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST TOMMY AND ERIC ,
    BUT NO!!!!!!
    THIS WOULD RUIN EVERYTHING!!!
    SORRY GENE BUT YOURE BLIND.
    IF THEY WERNT IN THE BAND IN THE FIRST PLACE KISS
    WOULDNT BE WHAT IT IS TODAY!!!
    I’M LITERALLY CRYING!!
    O THOUGHT THE FANS WERE THE IMPORTANCE!!
    ACE,PETER,PAUL,AND GENE IN THE RNR HALL OF FAME HAS
    TO HAPPEN!!!!!

  41. What a joke with out ace and peter there is no kiss…these jokers dressing and acting like them is pathetic ….there has been no kiss since creatures…period….everything since then has sucked..along with several before creatures…guess what, no one cares what happens without ace and peter

  42. They have finally reach the RnR HOF by us the fans plus after years of being snubed by the HOF and now Gene and Paul cant/ wont play with the other founding members ACE and PETER… Hey go on stage even without makeup and jam…. What a rip of to loyal fans! And newer fans who do not really dig the latest line up. I feel cheated as a fan,musically loyally, and financially. This will put a scare on Gene and Paul which will also put on my love for them…They always have said they are here for the fans but now its thier egos. Ace and Peter are not asking to rejoin KISS. But rather share the KISStory accepting the induction.

  43. Kissnut91 Oracle09 says:

    When r the eddieites gonna actually realize paul and gene dont care KISS IS ABAND NOT A BRAND AS EDDIE IS SO LAMELY FOND OF SAYING HE HASNT SEEN KISS IN 12 YRS
    SONIC BOOM MONSTER KISS IS BIGGER THEN EVER AND PLEEEEEAAASE STOP WITH THE WHOLE COHEADLING B.S KISS ALWAYS HAS MAJOR BANDS AS THERE OPENER AND SOORY CHECK THE FAX KISSES BIGGEST SOLI SHOW WAS WHEN GREAT SOME HAS BEEN DRUMMER WHO MAKES HIS MONEY OFF KISS IS IN THE HALL YEEHAA GIVE PETER HIS LOLLIPOP AND GREAT NOW WE DONT HAVE TO HEAR ANYMORE POOR POOR PETER .

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